Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXII

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InVOLuntary said:
He was considered a shoe in earlier. Not sure why you are having a hard time with this. I realize I probably need to dumb it down for you but I'm not sure I could quite get to your level.

When the search firm was hired he and coach got cursory interviews that lasted 10 min. The Chancellor made the hire.
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I like the hire overall but told you she was a witch. She treated those two poorly.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Half assed? Are you freakin blind and deaf? What kind of factual info do you think there would be? You think they would just come out and say it? I'm not naive or paranoid. I don't have to see wind to know it's blowing.
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I assure you, I am neither. I just think there would be some sort of general narrative, from either named or anonymous sources, coming out of UT that supports that.

Instead, there's not. There's not really anything. People just seem to be lukewarm and watching what will happen.

Part of the reason I don't buy into it is that I've given up worrying about how colleges and universities hire damn near anyone outside of athletic coaches. They aren't even on the same planet as the rest of us with how wrapped up in political correctness they are. All of them. Every single one. No sense in bogging myself down in it.

Sucks to watch UT do it too, but it's the world we're in. My hope is that just because the openings they are filling have roots in the Title IX nonsense, they aren't the liberal athletics hating sleeper cells some seem to have decided they are. There's a benefit to success on both sides, maybe, just maybe, they see that.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Even if pushing out Martin was the right move, Weber has been a "meh" hire for them at best. He's regressed the farther he's gotten from Martin's teams.

Upgrade is not the right term. At best, you can say Currie took a different situation and didn't bungle it completely. At worst you can say he hired a bad fit for his school who stood no chance of success once Martin's influence was gone from the program.
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His best team was 4 years after Martin left. He's rebuilding which is necessary at a place like KSU.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
His best team was 4 years after Martin left. He's rebuilding which is necessary at a place like KSU.
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This is false. His best season was the year after Martin left. Here is his record at KSU

2012–13 Kansas State 27–8 (14–4) T–1st NCAA Round of 64
2013–14 Kansas State 20–13 (10–8) 5th NCAA Round of 64
2014–15 Kansas State 15–17 (8–10) T–6th
2015–16 Kansas State 17–16 (5–13) 8th
2016–17 Kansas State 17–12 (6–10)


Kansas State: 96–66 (.593) 43–45 (.489)
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
This is false. His best season was the year after Martin left. Here is his record at KSU

2012–13 Kansas State 27–8 (14–4) T–1st NCAA Round of 64
2013–14 Kansas State 20–13 (10–8) 5th NCAA Round of 64
2014–15 Kansas State 15–17 (8–10) T–6th
2015–16 Kansas State 17–16 (5–13) 8th
2016–17 Kansas State 17–12 (6–10)


Kansas State: 96–66 (.593) 43–45 (.489)
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This is correct. I remembered wrong. I do remember Martin leaving a mess behind. Many of his players were transferring and players threatening to sue. He's Bobby Knight reincarnated.

Maybe Currie is hard to work for. Or maybe he has high expectations and wants coaches to handle business with class. We'll see.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
This is correct. I remembered wrong. I do remember Martin leaving a mess behind. Many of his players were transferring and players threatening to sue. He's Bobby Knight reincarnated.

Maybe Currie is hard to work for. Or maybe he has high expectations and wants coaches to handle business with class. We'll see.
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I'm giving the guy a shot. He has things on his resume that worry me (like his hiring of Weber, though I do think perhaps parting with Martin was in the Univerities best long term interests).

But I've heard he's done some good things financially and with some other sports teams as well (IDK the situation that well, but supposedly he made a tough call moving on from Deb Patterson to their current WBB coach and that has turned out pretty well for them).


But for someone who has a mixed history with hires, it sure looks like he's walking into situation that could potentially have him involved in a lot of coaching searches over the next 1-3 years. Hopefully we're lucky enough to see the kind of improvement in our major sports that allow Currie to stick to his strong point and stock the coffers
 
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BaldBiker said:
Almost missed this part.

Obviously, you've never seen me describe myself on here. No. There will be no Nobel Prizes in my future.

Definitely not a Nobel Peace Prize. :no:
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Do you know how a Marine makes peace?
Eliminate the opposition :salute:
 
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