Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXII

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I think having a massive collective chip on it's shoulder is exactly what this team needs to succeed next year. They sure didn't deal well with the championship expectations last season. Too many got the big head syndrome, and I think a few pressed too hard.
 
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It's not so bad when the entire quote is used: "We want five-star hearts and five-star competitors."

Of course, the whole quote isn't funny, only by parsing it is it mockable.

It's standard coachspeak, and there is nothing wrong with it, generally. The problem was the context in which Jones used it (a discussion regarding Tennessee's recruiting being down). It made it sound like he was making excuses or living in a weird fantasy land where everything is peachy. I doubt that's the case, and I'm sure Jones was just praising his new players, but in a conference full of rabid fanbases looking at every opportunity to pounce, such statements are bound to be construed in the negative.
 
Joey Freshwater already doing his thing down at FAU...

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" I use Valtrex . How 'bout you?"
 
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Not all bama fans are jerks. Dang it.

My son just opened his door and hit the truck next to us. It has Bama plates and a Bama sticker.

I get out and he is wearing a Bama hat. He sees my Tennessee sweatshirt and says you are an SEC guy, we are all good here. No worries.
 
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Not all bama fans are jerks. Dang it.

My son just opened his door and hit the truck next to us. It has Bama plates and a Bama sticker.

I get out and he is wearing a Bama hat. He sees my Tennessee sweatshirt and says you are an SEC guy, we are all good here. No worries.

A florida fan would have wanted to throw down guaranteed.
 
I heard some talk on signing day that they were fortunate that some teams filled up.

TJ Moore is another one. We passed on both of those 4*.

Florida is gonna fill up with highly ranked guys every year because of their location. But it seems to me like Miami and FSU are picking who they want and UF is getting what falls to them.

1 top 100 player is very down for Florida. Their last 2-3 years recruiting has/will really help us. Talent gap has closed quickly

Uga had a nice class though. If Kirby doesn't pull off a better season though that may start to impact their 2018 class
 
I like the idea behind it, actually.


I just think the way he tries to compress his message into slogans sometimes lends itself to a Twitter-based society mocking his message.


A lot of people have talked about how Tom Herman basically said the same thing as Butch. The only real difference is that Herman's quote can't really be broken down and quoted into ~50 characters, allowing space for a mocking message to be entered in a tweet along with the quote.

I just wish Butch would speak off the cuff a bit more instead of going the catchphrase route at every opportunity.


It's not that what he says bothers me, really. It's that trying to force his message and catchy slogans either gives the perception that he lacks the awareness to understand how his words will be taken or that he's incapable of speaking frankly and showing his real personality.


In the pst we've heard recruits rave about how much they love Butch (even the ones who decide on other schools). So we know he must have some personality. I wish he'd just let it shine through a bit more often.

The problem with that rational is that they don't even include the full quote. Not even a full sentence of the quote. It's blatantly deceiving if not dishonest. It's picking words from someone's quote and making it say what you want it to say.

I've come to accept it that that's the way the media operates. It's who they are. No integrity. But I'll never accept it that fans would do that to their own team. Most teams, certainly ours, have enough legitimate things to criticizes w/o fabricating stuff. I guess I don't understand what the word "fan" means. Or maybe those type don't.
 
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I heard some talk on signing day that they were fortunate that some teams filled up.

TJ Moore is another one. We passed on both of those 4*.

Florida is gonna fill up with highly ranked guys every year because of their location. But it seems to me like Miami and FSU are picking who they want and UF is getting what falls to them.

They also took that 4 star wr that got busted at osu. their top guys are ones that were passed on. Not a good look.
 
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Personally, I didn't like the 5* heart comment at first. Looking at it I just thought there were better ways to say it and the backlash was immediate. My favorite sports talk shows here in Nashville we're blasting Butch... ESPN, Fox Sports we're all blasting him. I just didn't understand why he would want to say something he knew would be misconstrued. Then I came on here and read other people's posts about it and I calmed down a bit. I still think he could have said it differently to avoid all of this, but oh well. In the grand scheme of it the comment wasn't that bad. Not worth discussing over and over again.

Our own fans on twitter are absolutely brutalizing him for it.
 
our fans on twitter are idiots. our media is full of idiots and our administration is full of idiots. we shoot ourselves in the foot from every angle

It's probably the vocal minority who want him gone, but they are really laughing it up with each other.
 
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Butch could get away with saying things like that if he would win something significant. If Saban, Meyer, or Jimbo said something like that it wouldn't draw criticism. When he says that stuff it comes across as excuse making. Not that I agree but that's the perception.
 
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butch could get away with saying things like that if he would win something significant. If saban, meyer, or jimbo said something like that it wouldn't draw criticism. When he says that stuff it comes across as excuse making. Not that i agree but that's the perception.

no more excuses!

Just win baby
 
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Not all bama fans are jerks. Dang it.

My son just opened his door and hit the truck next to us. It has Bama plates and a Bama sticker.

I get out and he is wearing a Bama hat. He sees my Tennessee sweatshirt and says you are an SEC guy, we are all good here. No worries.
Dude use to be a UT fan im sure
 
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McElwain is making some questionable hires. His DB coach just left so he poached Corey Bell who was just hired by UCF last month. Then, he hires an OL coach from North Texas.
 
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What the hell is "Dools standards"?

I googled this and nothing came close.

Why does Dooley have to keep coming up here and has now become forever associated with our beloved Volunteers as the "Dools standards"?

My take is that so many keep comparing CBJ to dooley regardless of the circumstances that you almost have to include dooley or the statement will be attacked mercilessly.
 
McElwain is making some questionable hires. His DB coach just left so he poached Corey Bell who was just hired by UCF last month. Then, he hires an OL coach from North Texas.

What are the gator boards saying about the hires? Anybody got a rivals subscription?
 
1 top 100 player is very down for Florida. Their last 2-3 years recruiting has/will really help us. Talent gap has closed quickly

Uga had a nice class though. If Kirby doesn't pull off a better season though that may start to impact their 2018 class

Better hope so. They're in the running for 3 5*s from their own state. Good news is 2 other 5*s have already committed elsewhere. I'm thinking Kirby has been making a LOT of promises over this last cycle to sign guys so that may impact future cycles in itself.
 
So if the quote from CBJ had been:

We recruited and signed a class of 5 star competitors with 5 star hearts. Media rankings are nice for the fans. Our evaluations are critical for further development of the championship attitude, desire and work ethic that's required when you Give Your All For Tennessee. The talent level of this class will far surpass the media rankings.
Now GBO and any one of you that don't understand can GTFO!

:salute:


Wonder how much CBJ would pay for a press secretary and quote generator? :)
 
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I can't fault him for this! I had the same problem, if you want to call it a problem, if I was in the room or bar where there was good looking girls, I was going to do the same thing. It's one of those things some of us can't control. lol It was just as natural as drinking water..

The Head Football Coach of a D-1 university should not be hanging out in the club scam on young girls.


Also, I am now a 4* poster so my posts will be respected!



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Not all bama fans are jerks. Dang it.

My son just opened his door and hit the truck next to us. It has Bama plates and a Bama sticker.

I get out and he is wearing a Bama hat. He sees my Tennessee sweatshirt and says you are an SEC guy, we are all good here. No worries.

Fake Bama fan.... that's for sure
 
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