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SSVol said:
Mobility covers up other limitations. Goods reads plus a good arm will trump mobility every time, but a highly mobile guy can be successful in the absence of the other two.
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7 times out of 10, mobility at QB wins in college, not the pro game mind you, the college game. Check past champions. Alabama pre-Hurts is more the exception than the rule.
 
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FWIW - if Scott/Weinke does happen, that is an indicator of mobile over DT. Both coaches have been most active in those type situations and programs. This is why Canada was a great hire by LSU, which does not have a dual threat roster or planned scheme. They will use a mobile QB that can spin it. Fits who they are.

IMO that is what has yet to be defined at UT 4 years later. Butch said in the beginning his O can work both ways. It might, but I doubt it will at a high level. How do you have a competition with two different styles/talents at QB while in camp preparing for a season? You have to figure that out in SP at the latest and hopefully before then.
 
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Vols4us said:
FWIW - if Scott/Weinke does happen, that is an indicator of mobile over DT. Both coaches have been most active in those type situations and programs. This is why Canada was a great hire by LSU, which does not have a dual threat roster or planned scheme. They will use a mobile QB that can spin it. Fits who they are.

IMO that is what has yet to be defined at UT 4 years later. Butch said in the beginning his O can work both ways. It might, but I doubt it will at a high level. How do you have a competition with two different styles/talents at QB while in camp preparing for a season? You have to figure that out in SP at the latest and hopefully before then.
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I think Butch Jones was saying that for recruiting purposes and he may have actually believed it. But If the majority of your running plays are read option, then your QB better be able to run too.
 
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Watch Sheriron Jones make noise in the offseason. He seems like he would be a great leader. Highly recruited guy. No reason he shouldnt be right in the thick of this QB competition.
 
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Dont think its going to matter so much who the QB is between QD and JG. The deciding factor is the OL. And with Mahoney I dont have so much confidence in their ability, at least not to begin the season. If the OL starts out bad like it has every year with Mahoney, the we should probably roll with JG
 
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My guess is that the winning QB for next fall will be the one who knows the offense the best. Dobbs was able to take the play call, get everybody properly aligned, initiate the motion, and get the play started as called. I know that a strong arm, accuracy, and mobility are big factors, but being about to execute the play as called is always going to play the major role. I think Dormady might have a slight edge in this.
 
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MrVolton said:
7 times out of 10, mobility at QB wins in college, not the pro game mind you, the college game. Check past champions. Alabama pre-Hurts is more the exception than the rule.
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If I have only one skill, it better be mobility. If I have the other two, I can be consistently better than just mobility (see NFL). What I didn't say, but thought of seconds after posting, is that if I have a decent combination of all three, I'm playing for championships.

But to the point of Dormady, if I have a good arm and good judgment, I can get away with decent straight line speed, even if not truly mobile or elusive.
 
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Of all the assistant coaches on the chopping block, I assumed Mahoney would definitely be replaced, but there's been little mention of that- only OC and QB coaches. Do you think he stays?
 
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VOL-uh-tile said:
Dont think its going to matter so much who the QB is between QD and JG. The deciding factor is the OL. And with Mahoney I dont have so much confidence in their ability, at least not to begin the season. If the OL starts out bad like it has every year with Mahoney, the we should probably roll with JG
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I am sure other coaches could do better, and Mahoney gets a lot of crap, but I believe it has more to do with system than player development. We have recruited some maulers at O-line, but it hasn't panned out for them all. An offensive lineman loves to run down hill and plow defenders. With the run pass option offense the linemen cannot take off into the defender like a true power run game. There is risk of penalty and being too far downfield if the QB decides to pass instead of hand off or QB option run. If they knew what the play design was every time I feel they would do better as a whole. The o-line is playing blind basically not knowing if the QB will run or pass. I know there are designed runs where they can fire off, but the system IMO has a lot to do with o-line deficiencies.
 
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therickbol said:
Because this is everybody's opportunity to state opinions as hard facts about things they have very little knowledge about and have other people chime in with support to pump up their ego. Doest bother me, but I do enjoy getting a laugh out of it. I envision me walking into the shop while a mechanic is working on my car and telling him how to rebuild my engine because I watched a YouTube video (psa-I have no mechanical aptitude). Nobody on this site has ANY IDEA how many games we will win with Dormandy at QB. But it's cute that they are so emphatic about how much they DO KNOW that answer.
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We don't have any players named Dormandy.
 
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chavisut said:
Well, there are a few that have started to downplay Tennessee's history and crunching numbers to determine 8-4 is pretty dang spot on for Tennessee.

I think all of us on here want to see Tennessee win though.
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And all of these are discussions that revolve around the thought of firing a coach after four years of Butch Jones' tenure. I said before the season started- anything less than an East title was disappointing but did not mean he should be fired. They aren't mutually exclusive.
 
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Vols4us said:
FWIW - if Scott/Weinke does happen, that is an indicator of mobile over DT. Both coaches have been most active in those type situations and programs. This is why Canada was a great hire by LSU, which does not have a dual threat roster or planned scheme. They will use a mobile QB that can spin it. Fits who they are.

IMO that is what has yet to be defined at UT 4 years later. Butch said in the beginning his O can work both ways. It might, but I doubt it will at a high level. How do you have a competition with two different styles/talents at QB while in camp preparing for a season? You have to figure that out in SP at the latest and hopefully before then.
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Weinke was a statue. Don't think he relates to pro-style QB because he's primarily worked with dual threats at the PROFESSIONAL level?
 
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