Trumpcare

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One option I don't see discussed much is doing away with the subsidies but allowing a full deduction for HI premiums for the individual.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
Skreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech
Go to Dr Price's website and read the proposal, its only 37 pages as opposed to 2000 like obummer care.
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So because it's shorter, you conclude that it's better? Yes, with a super complicated system like we have, it makes sense that we do it on a napkin.
 
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TN Ribs said:
It would be nice if both parties would act like adults, sit at a table, and hammer out a compromise. There are many parts of the ACA that are popular - staying on your parents coverage until your 26, can't be denied coverage if you have a pre-existing condition, etc. - for once, they should not be hyper-partisan hacks and get something done regardless of party affiliation. I'm not holding my breath.
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Maybe 0bama should've tried that, but nope. 26 is way too old to be on your parents plan and forcing everyone to pay for pregnancy coverage is ludicrous
 
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lawgator1 said:
Ok, it's time for the GOP and Trump to make good on their promise to repeal AND REPLACE Obamacare. They promised it would cut costs of insurance and costs of care.

Predictions?

I predict they will repeal the individual mandate. But they'll keep most, if not all, mandated coverages. Some minor tinkering with Medicaid. Won't lay a glove on Medicare.

The replacement will be some kind of across-state lines selling, and maybe allow a super slimmed down policy for disasters, without all of the mandated coverages. Super cheap but for 99 percent of buyers offering effectively no coverage at all.

Stocks of health insurers will go higher, and Trump will take credit, but within a year or two it will become clear to the voters that it's a pig in a poke, because the problem will once again clearly become that we have less people paying in via insurance, and more people using services via those of us who do.

Premiums for us, and for employers, will explode by 2019.
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All of these predictions and he hasn't even taken the oath of office yet. Whats the rush?
Obamacare was created to give low cost health care to the illegal immigrants that Obama hoped to give amnesty (automatically converting them to Democratic voters). This would work temporarily and after its failure they would be forced to switch to single payer system (his end game). I am sure any group without this agenda can come up with a better plan, even the Dems.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
All of these predictions and he hasn't even taken the oath of office yet. Whats the rush?
Obamacare was created to give low cost health care to the illegal immigrants that Obama hoped to give amnesty (automatically converting them to Democratic voters). This would work temporarily and after its failure they would be forced to switch to single payer system (his end game). I am sure any group without this agenda can come up with a better plan, even the Dems.
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This posts oozes ignorance.
 
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Is Trumpcare the one that everyone has a job and can pay their own damn insurance?

If so, I'm all for it.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
LG, how do you fix this fundamental problem? You've put you fingers on it... how do you fix a Ponzi/Pyramid scheme like this?
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I think Obama (and Romney) are right. You have to broaden the base of people paying in by some combination of requiring it, and incentivizing it.

No other way.

You can debate the right mix. But in the end escalating costs spread out over fewer people means those left paying are burdened way more than is sustainable or fair.
 
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lawgator1 said:
So because it's shorter, you conclude that it's better? Yes, with a super complicated system like we have, it makes sense that we do it on a napkin.
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No, I meant you might've been able to focus long enough and see that there are viable alternatives genius instead of skreeching about repealing obummercare. It's happening brutha,get used to it. 😎
 
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slobberknocker said:
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Me either. But I don't think anyone on here wants to go back to the good old days of pre-existing conditions and lifetime limits on coverage. Obviously Obamacare has major problems. But understand that the insurance companies sure as hell ain't on your side.
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The amusing part? Obamacare was supported by the insurance and medical community
 
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tumscalcium said:
A prison is the ideal setup for liberals. Haiti is just full of liberals. How many hard working, straight, white men live there?
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Jesus dude... You miss the Klan rally tonight and feel the need to make up for it?
 
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TN Ribs said:
It would be nice if both parties would act like adults, sit at a table, and hammer out a compromise. There are many parts of the ACA that are popular - staying on your parents coverage until your 26, can't be denied coverage if you have a pre-existing condition, etc. - for once, they should not be hyper-partisan hacks and get something done regardless of party affiliation. I'm not holding my breath.
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While these items are popular, actuarially they do nothing but drive up the cost of insurance.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The amusing part? Obamacare was supported by the insurance and medical community
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The insurance community supported it because they believed it was a huge incremental step towards socialized medicine. If that comes to fruition, the insurance companies will become the largest government contractors with their sole function being administering the systems and handling claims..... why would they want this? They want this because they'll be paid handsomely to do this and make a huge profit.....AND.... they'll no longer have the financial exposure of underwriting the business. It's a no brainer for them
 
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