'17' TN ATH Tee Higgins (Clemson commit)

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dcm3w said:
Some posters here are pathetic. All about the recruit until he commits to another school the the recruit miraculously becomes "average" and "dumb."

Hell, I bet if Peyton announced he was gonna be OC at Florida, all we would hear is "not a VFL. He wasn't that good here anyway, didn't even win the NC with him. He sexually assaulted a girl with his butt, he's a thug."
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Bad analogy because Hell would freeze over before Manning would associate with Florida.
 
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Mike4Vols said:
1. A poster taking issue with UT pulling in state prospects isn't being a negavol. It's fact. They missed out on the top 3 prospects at a point when all 3 were presumed to be qualifiers.

2. Grown-ass men laughing at a kid for not qualifying for college is comptely pathetic. Don't portray it as "laughing at Clemson". Somebody looking at these post from the outside would see it as mocking those kids. Again ... pathetic.
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1. Cordarrian Richardson has always been an academic risk. He didn't even play his senior year of football because of a grades scandal as I recall.
 
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I know a kid personally that signed with Ole Miss a couple years ago with a 13 ACT that got in. Your GPA is weighted in there some how.
 
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volunteerlane said:
I know a kid personally that signed with Ole Miss a couple years ago with a 13 ACT that got in. Your GPA is weighted in there some how.
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The test score is almost irrelevant if they have a good core gpa. A player with a 13 ACT is a full qualifier with a 3.0 core gpa.
 
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BruinVol said:
The test score is almost irrelevant if they have a good core gpa. A player with a 13 ACT is a full qualifier with a 3.0 core gpa.
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I doubt someone with a 13 has a 3.0 but we don't know the kid's score. Callahan has said he has work to do so that has merit but that's probably all we really know.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I doubt someone with a 13 has a 3.0 but we don't know the kid's score. Callahan has said he has work to do so that has merit but that's probably all we really know.
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Some high schools will pass along about any good athlete that keeps their nose clean with good grades.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
3.0 is not passing along.
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Passing along with good grades.

We are talking about 16 classes. None of the others matter. Take 1-3 online classes that are almost assured to be an A and then find 4-6 more classes with coaches teaching a Core class for more A and then make a C in the other 8 classes and it isn't hard to get to a 3.0 if people want to see a kid succeed.
 
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BruinVol said:
Passing along with good grades.

We are talking about 16 classes. None of the others matter. Take 1-3 online classes that are almost assured to be an A and then find 4-5 more classes with coaches teaching a Core class for more A and then make a C in the other 8 classes and it isn't hard to get to a 3.0 if people want to see a kid succeed.
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Giving out grades isn't what you do when you want a kid to succeed regardless of athletic ability. What happens if football doesn't work out?
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I doubt someone with a 13 has a 3.0 but we don't know the kid's score. Callahan has said he has work to do so that has merit but that's probably all we really know.
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There is grade inflation in some places, although the standardized proficiency tests negate it somewhat. There are some very smart, very hard working students who just don't test well.
 
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BruinVol said:
Passing along with good grades.

We are talking about 16 classes. None of the others matter. Take 1-3 online classes that are almost assured to be an A and then find 4-6 more classes with coaches teaching a Core class for more A and then make a C in the other 8 classes and it isn't hard to get to a 3.0 if people want to see a kid succeed.
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So you're saying "if people want to see a kid succeed" they need to give him/her good grades so that they have no trouble getting into whichever school gives them a scholarship?

Seems more like you are setting them up for failure down the road when they don't have someone giving them everything they need when adversity hits.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
There is grade inflation in some places, although the standardized proficiency tests negate it somewhat. There are some very smart, very hard working students who just don't test well.
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I've never been sold on the "don't test well" argument.

Maybe those people just aren't naturally smart, but are just good at memorizing material and regurgitating it for a test. On standardized tests you can not do that.
 
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My nephew is a great student and has always been on the honor roll. He took the act for the first time and got a 15. He knows what he has to do to get the score up and said he's gonna kill it next time. With act prep classes and tutors these kids can get the scores they need with no problem.
 
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volunteerfan said:
The kid has until the summer to raise his act score up. Grown men gloating about a low score from a high school kid sounds really pathetic. Do you really think that he won't get the best tutors to help him get that act score up? Sounds a lot like what Preston Williams went through
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If he scored that low, he may have to take the test twice or prove any dramatic increase in the score.
 
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VolInDayton said:
Giving out grades isn't what you do when you want a kid to succeed regardless of athletic ability. What happens if football doesn't work out?
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That's a great topic and one I feel passionate about. The opportunity of going to college and playing elite football is Much more important that some silly grade in a core class. If a student gives 100% effort and does his work the fate of his career after football isn't tied to whether they made a C or a A. Only a very small % of careers out there are Specialized enough for a grade in a specific core class and it's grade to make a hill of beans in that persons success after school whether they "earned" that grade or not.
 
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jcv0010 said:
So you're saying "if people want to see a kid succeed" they need to give him/her good grades so that they have no trouble getting into whichever school gives them a scholarship?

Seems more like you are setting them up for failure down the road when they don't have someone giving them everything they need when adversity hits.
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The other side of the coin is that, as adults, we quickly realize that most of us will never use most of what we learn in school beyond reading and basic math.
 
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jcv0010 said:
So you're saying "if people want to see a kid succeed" they need to give him/her good grades so that they have no trouble getting into whichever school gives them a scholarship?

Seems more like you are setting them up for failure down the road when they don't have someone giving them everything they need when adversity hits.
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A teacher should give some extra work and make the student do some extra but hell no an Algebra II grade of a C should in no way keep a kid out of college.
 
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BruinVol said:
The test score is almost irrelevant if they have a good core gpa. A player with a 13 ACT is a full qualifier with a 3.0 core gpa.
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Not at most universities. Of course some may look the other way for a 5* football player - but a non athlete would be told no at UTK with that combination.
 
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