No AD hire till February according to Jimmy Hyams

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bigorangetrain said:
first off i dont know who would be a great ad. I have admitted this. Thats why i have asked others to offer me info as to why blackburn would be a good ad. By looking at his resume, he seems to be a good candidate.

I dont care if the ad loves or hates butch jones. I dont want an ad who is going to hire/fire whoever the fans want. I want an ad who puts ut athletics as their main priority and does whats best for the program.

A "screw up" in this situation, in my opinion, would be this. The ut administration waits around, twittles its fingers, makes a search and hires someone who is not fit for the job. Or maybe they listen too much to one of the coaches at tennessee, and hire the ad they would want. Think about the total screw ups the ut administration has made in the past. Why do you think tennessee ever got into the situation that we have been? The real reason why ut was in the dark ages is because of its administration. Their decisions have made fans like me extremely leery of important moves they make.
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LWSVOL said:
my sources still say soon. might be week after bowl game. But Jimmy's sources are pretty good and in the AD saying February. I like mine and do think Butch will have a boss when he starts making changes.
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You said in another thread (chancellor thread), that there will be staff changes, so an AD needs to be in place asap, because coaches do not want to come to a place where no AD in place and would put Tennessee behind 8 ball, so are they willing to be behind 8 ball or what? I guess I just do not see how Tennessee could wait long unless no staff changes and no other imminent issues to address in any sport for that matter.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
I think Hart has been on the chopping block a very long time. DP or Larry said he has tried and failed the last two years to get his contract extended.
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But he was not fired, nor were there grounds for firing. His contract was not extended, letting him know that his services would not continue beyond contract term. Allowing him to "retire" was mutually beneficial for both parties.
 
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Poppa T said:
But he was not fired, nor were there grounds for firing. His contract was not extended, letting him know that his services would not continue beyond contract term. Allowing him to "retire" was mutually beneficial for both parties.
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Except that UT desperately needs a competent AD I need place and doesn't so it's really not.
 
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Anybody that thinks this is the new chancellors hire to make is foolish. She has input but not control of the hire. I still say likely by the bowl game. No way it isn't done prior to the coaches convention. That is where asst coaches are interviewed and hired. The coaches convention is January 8 through the 11th in Nashville Tennessee
 
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The more delays, the more I think it may not happen. Still think it will, but delays give time for things to fall apart, and often, that's what some people are hoping for.
 
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vol81 said:
Anybody that thinks this is the new chancellors hire to make is foolish. She has input but not control of the hire. I still say likely by the bowl game. No way it isn't done prior to the coaches convention. That is where asst coaches are interviewed and hired. The coaches convention is January 8 through the 11th in Nashville Tennessee
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If I am not mistaken the chancellor (either new or existing) must approve the hire. The chancellor is the AD's manager and at every place I have ever worked, my manager had to approve the hire and as a manager, I had say in who was hired to work for me.

Additionally, no person in their right mind would take a job working for someone if that someone did not approve of them. Recipe for failure from the start.
 
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tvolsfan said:
The more delays, the more I think it may not happen. Still think it will, but delays give time for things to fall apart, and often, that's what some people are hoping for.
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Clarify, what may not happen?

There will be a new AD hired OR Hart will be extended. That is really the only two choices - so something has to happen.

If Blackburn is the right person for the job and Blackburn wants the job and those that are responsible for hiring the AD (... including the new chancellor ....) feels he is right for the job - then timing will not matter in terms of him getting the job.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Clarify, what may not happen?

There will be a new AD hired OR Hart will be extended. That is really the only two choices - so something has to happen.

If Blackburn is the right person for the job and Blackburn wants the job and those that are responsible for hiring the AD (... including the new chancellor ....) feels he is right for the job - then timing will not matter in terms of him getting the job.
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I meant Blackburn may not happen. I still think it does, though.

If it's Gilbert, it's probably just better to shut down the program.
 
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volfanbill said:
what would an AD coming in tomorrow really do to make things that much different by February?

How could the organization be poorly ran when the chancellor has just been named, isn't even fully assuming office until March 1, yet will have a new AD hired by February, when the sitting AD is still in office?
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Careful now...your throwing intelligent thought into their pitchfork rally and interrupting my comedic relief for the day!
 
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tennrich1 said:
Careful now...your throwing intelligent thought into their pitchfork rally and interrupting my comedic relief for the day!
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volfan102455 said:
Clarify, what may not happen?

There will be a new AD hired OR Hart will be extended. That is really the only two choices - so something has to happen.

If Blackburn is the right person for the job and Blackburn wants the job and those that are responsible for hiring the AD (... including the new chancellor ....) feels he is right for the job - then timing will not matter in terms of him getting the job.
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Hart will definitely not be extended!:clapping::clapping:
 
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volnpowell said:
You said in another thread (chancellor thread), that there will be staff changes, so an AD needs to be in place asap, because coaches do not want to come to a place where no AD in place and would put Tennessee behind 8 ball, so are they willing to be behind 8 ball or what? I guess I just do not see how Tennessee could wait long unless no staff changes and no other imminent issues to address in any sport for that matter.
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I think most would agree with you in "not seeing how they could wait so long"......unfortunately, this is Tennessee we're talking about here.
 
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KBVol said:
I think most would agree with you in "not seeing how they could wait so long"......unfortunately, this is Tennessee we're talking about here.
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They don't inspire much confidence, do they...
 
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tvolsfan said:
I meant Blackburn may not happen. I still think it does, though.

If it's Gilbert, it's probably just better to shut down the program.
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Agreed if it's Gilbert, we become Tulane, prune Neyland back to handling about 30k on game day, may as well leave the SEC, no use in being clowns of the SEC.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
If true then Davenort needs to be fired because clearly things aren't getting better.
This would also mean that Tennessee doesent get Blackburn either.
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She was literally just hired and you already want to fire her!?! You people are something else.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I meant Blackburn may not happen. I still think it does, though.

If it's Gilbert, it's probably just better to shut down the program.
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I don't know whether you're right or wrong, but it's amazing how fans have created this scenario in their minds... that Blackburn is an administrative genius and the only guy for the job and anyone else would be a disaster.
 
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The only way to guarantee a Blackburn hire is to get Peyton and Phil involved. If they don't get involved and Gilbert is hired, then it is on Peyton.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Clarify, what may not happen?

There will be a new AD hired OR Hart will be extended. That is really the only two choices - so something has to happen.

If Blackburn is the right person for the job and Blackburn wants the job and those that are responsible for hiring the AD (... including the new chancellor ....) feels he is right for the job - then timing will not matter in terms of him getting the job.
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Hart extended? You need to clarify. He's announced his retirement date and is lameduck as we speak. He's not making any major decisions now or at least he certainly shouldn't. I know you're pushing the "we got time and we're in no hurry" narrative, but that's largely not true. We have personnel issues coming up very soon with the staff.

Doug Mathews discussed the AD situation at length on Sunday. After saying that the AD hire is "well down the tracks" to happenin and that the new chancellor will have virtually no say in who it is, he gave a few reasons why it's so important that a new AD be hired and in place as soon as possible....like, today....

1. We have coaches that are being called and offered by other programs right now...what if Jones wants to offer a multi year contract to keep a guy like Gillespie? As head coach, he doesn't have the authority to do that and needs AD approval.

2. There will be several coaching changes made, at least 3, according to Doug. What if Jones wants to buy out a contract or two? As head coach, he doesn't have the authority to do that and needs AD approval.

3. There are discussions ongoing right now about possibly moving an older coach or two into administrative positions within the football program. Jones can have the idea but he he doesn't have the authority to make position/title those changes, he needs AD approval.

He said it's possible that Hart could rubber stamp those decisions by Butch, but it's not a good idea and he sure hopes that won't happen.

Bottom line, he said the AD hire needs to happen ASAP because of those and many other considerations/decisions that are vitally important to the program right now.
 
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