Bye bye Butch - Purdue bound (message board rumor)

[cwbytruckers]

Please tell us how you know Jones doesn't want to be here?

I love how some of y'all just make $hit up.

Butch is that you????

 

[BeecherVol]

If you believe Brent, LWSVOL, Brice, Chris Lowe, and a few others, Butch's agent was shopping Butch around to a number of programs including Purdue and Houston among others. If you don't think those guys are credible then OK.

This. It was making the rounds before the media got ahold of it.

The pressure point selected is humorous.

 

[cwbytruckers]

False.... Sexton isn't out pushing Saban's name to other schools for more money. Also, had Butch not lost to USC and Vandy and had won the A&M game, he would have been given the keys to the castle.... Dude failed even though he said his system is "championship caliber." His stock on the downtrend and Tennessee isn't his dream job. He wants to be an NFL coach.

Only thing NFL he could coach is National Fat Ladies

 

[ReaderVol]

You're right. Some football tradition and money. As to the Saban's comments to his fans, he has equity that Butch doesn't possess.

He has equity that only Meyer can approach. That wasn't my point.
My point is being dismayed by fans reaction is not unique in any way to Jones.

 

[Behr]

It's my problem and Im working on it. Haha......But the biggest frustration I have on a message board is, opinions stated as fact. Then when questioned, no direct answer.

Lots of it in this thread.

 

[ReaderVol]

False.... Sexton isn't out pushing Saban's name to other schools for more money. Also, had Butch not lost to USC and Vandy and had won the A&M game, he would have been given the keys to the castle.... Dude failed even though he said his system is "championship caliber." His stock on the downtrend and Tennessee isn't his dream job. He wants to be an NFL coach.

Sexton has floated Sabans name.

 

[savannahfan]

He must of been bucking for a raise last week, hope it fell on deaf ears. Knowing the history of the UTAD he'll probably get a million dollar raise and a lifetime contract out of the deal...

There was something going on. That plane didn't fly itself to Purdue last week..

I'am naïve, as a rule always looking for a difference reason for things. So,,,, could Butch have been going to talk to one of their asst. people for a position at UT???

 

[amavol2]

There is only one issue with this. Butch leaving now would save himself in the long run. If we finish at 9-4 or 8-5 this year and go 8/9 wins next year with no SEC East Title, his stock will damage even worse. Because he will be seen as the guy who can't get it done at Tennessee in the poor division. That hurts him more coaching at a big program than just leaving and saying our fan base is irrational and being labeled "wasn't up to the challenge" by our fans. Which I am totally apart of...

If he was 10 years older, you definitely don't walk away from that buyout if you get fired. However, he has NFL ambitions and those hopes are cratering day by day.

I think this is true, If Butch is 8-4 next year without winning the east and is let go like a lot of insiders have said, his resume isn't as good as if he heft on his own, problem is no one wants him. This year was a fail for Butch.

 

[ReaderVol]

No one is taking a King Air to Southern Cal..... LOL... You're talking 3 fuel stops hahaha

Wow. Read the tread again sport. I didn't say he did. I said HE DID NOT. One of your members of the miserables said Kiffin used the UT plane to get another job.

LOL

 

[wmcovol]

Just when it seems dumb can't rear its ugly head any higher...

Purdue was NEVER on the table and Jones isn't looking anywhere else.

Also in the news, Santa, the Easter Bunny and tooth fairy aren't real.

Reader, no reason to speak logic with the delusional.....

 

[fade route]

This thread starts with a legitimate question..."Any chance Butch checks out Cincy?"

The next few posts don't deal in absolutes...ex: he "might" be looking...I "doubt" he will leave...

And then RV drops his knowledge with this little gem.



This completely changes the dynamic of the thread. It's insulting (dumb rearing its ugly head) and condescending.

RV is not interested in a discussion. He's only interested in forcing the absolutes of his own tiny world. He doesn't want you to share your speculation, but he wants to share his.

RV doesn't know. He should probably stop acting like he does.

Condescending to other posters is his specialty. It's all he does in addition to racking up 80 posts in a single thread.

 

[zeppelin128]

Do we know this as fact?

I'm not clear on it.

Insiders have stated that Purdue had no interest: what we don't know is if it was because he is suspect at coaching or if they could not/were unwilling to match his salary and buyout.

 

[Sarms58]

Tubberville resigned, any chance Butch kicks the tires at Cincinnati?

Zero chance...Butch can close out 2016 with back to back 9 wins seasons - best at UT in about a decade...he has a strong group of returning players and despite the negativism here, he has as good shot as anyone else to win the east next year...

Buy hey, Tubberville is now available...he beat Bama 6 years in a row, had a perfect season (13-0) with the SEC championship...

 

[TAZVOL75]

Do I believe agents try to angle their client in a manner to get them more $? Absolutely. Dumbo Fishers agent at FSU does it every year with LSU. And one year Dumbo's agent even used UT.
Agents get paid on a % basis of their clients salary.
DO I THINK FOR ONE SECOND BUTCH WANTS TO LEAVE UT? Not even close. In spite of the minority of idiots here, he loves UT.

Who cares what Butch wants, last thing im worried about is what he wants . He will be here next year but it will be all for not because he has already lost the majority of the fan base and wont be able to get them back . SEE YA , just my :twocents:

 

[SDV]

Maybe he can pull a Lebron and go back to Ohio

 

[JMSqb11]

Wow. Read the tread again sport. I didn't say he did. I said HE DID NOT. One of your members of the miserables said Kiffin used the UT plane to get another job.

LOL

Never said you did say that... I was only reinforcing your comment about Lane did not use it... Comprehension is hard for ReaderVol.

 

[ReaderVol]

Who cares what Butch wants, last thing im worried about is what he wants . He will be here next year but it will be all for not because he has already lost the majority of the fan base and wont be able to get them back . SEE YA , just my :twocents:

He's lost the majority of the fans? LOL

 

[FleeceItOut]

If Butch really thinks the fans have unrealistic expectations then he should leave for a few reasons:

1) They aren't unrealistic and that has been proven by CPF
2) They aren't going to change
3) He's admitting in a roundabout way that he can't reach them

Also, most fans expectations for this year was to win the east, which was more than attainable. Him not doing so in a year where he had the most talented team in the east and the 2nd most talented team in the SEC is alarming.

Losing to SCAR and Vandy is unacceptable, and even worse when there is so much on the line. Twice he failed when it mattered the most. That says a lot. Even CJM was able to rally he troops when he had to, and most would agree that he isn't a great coach, but he has managed to snag the east 2 years in a row with a team that has zero offensive ability.

Butch is already stressed out and ran into the ground, next year will push him over the edge.

 

[ReaderVol]

If Butch really thinks the fans have unrealistic expectations then he should leave for a few reasons:

1) They aren't unrealistic and that has been proven by CPF
2) They aren't going to change
3) He's admitting in a roundabout way that he can't reach them

Also, most fans expectations for this year was to win the east, which was more than attainable. Him not doing so in a year where he had the most talented team in the east and the 2nd most talented team in the SEC is alarming.

Losing to SCAR and Vandy is unacceptable, and even worse when there is so much on the line. Twice he failed when it mattered the most. That says a lot. Even CJM was able to rally he troops when he had to, and most would agree that he isn't a great coach, but he has managed to snag the east 2 years in a row with a team that has zero offensive ability.

Butch is already stressed out and ran into the ground, next year will push him over the edge.

You mean the same CPF that was ran out by fans?

 

[BeecherVol]

Sexton has floated Sabans name.

One thing we actually agree on.

Who was on that list?

 

[ReaderVol]

One thing we actually agree on.

Who was on that list?

There's been several lists mentioned. Which are you referring?

 

[Top Gun]

Reader is using common sense, that's all. Some of you want to believe anything negative you hear. Remember "weapons of mass destruction", whatever happened to common sense. Sure, CBJ is probably upset that fandom is making fun of him, but he isn't going to quit over it. Would you?

And how in the world do any of you know what Butch is thinking. In the above posts it seems you can all read his thoughts!

 

[wtorange]

If I were the head coach here I would look to leave whenever I had an equal opportunity to go elsewhere. We don't have a supportive fan base and nobody will ever be supported more than a few years. Also if I were a coach I would not want to come here unless I used it for a stepping stone. When Manning said he would not want to coach at Tennessee because whenever he made one wrong move half the people would cease liking him it was more than a tongue in cheek comment.

 

[TAZVOL75]

He's lost the majority of the fans? LOL

You think he hasn't ? let me ask you this , will Butch be here in 2018 ?:matrix:

 

[JMSqb11]

Reader is using common sense, that's all. Some of you want to believe anything negative you hear. Remember "weapons of mass destruction", whatever happened to common sense. Sure, CBJ is probably upset that fandom is making fun of him, but he isn't going to quit over it. Would you?

And how in the world do any of you know what Butch is thinking. In the above posts it seems you can all read his thoughts!

Not to be political, but WMD's were found over there..... This is well documented.