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KentheOrange said:
Not a big fan of DeBord, but remind me which game we didn't score enough points to win had the defense been clicking.
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People have short memories. We are already forgetting how bad this offense was early in the year. DeBord could have cost Tennessee the App St and Ohio games. Offense was also awful against South Carolina and was awful for extended periods of time against Virginia Tech, Florida, and Georgia despite winning each of those games. It was embarrassingly bad against Alabama, but it was Alabama. With the exception of a couple games, we had fumble/turnover problems all year.

Yes, the defense was terrible in the last 3 games of the season. I'm still not quite sure what happened, but I'm willing to give Shoop a pass given his track record and given that it played better earlier in the year against good competition when it was healthier.
 
#33
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Dooley's Army said:
I think we can all agree to give DeBord a pass on Bama.

I'll buy the other two. But sometimes, I'd imagine, things just don't clicking out there. Beyond anyones control. So, 2/12 isn't all that bad. Definitely not something to be canning someone for.
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I would have loved to see Debord pass on Bama. Oh wait
 
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#34
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Has anyone heard anything on Stripling wanting to leave his DL position for an off-field position?
 
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Aside from the incoming overhaul of the S&C program, I don't see any staff changes happening (unless DeBord retires). It would be awesome if Butch gave Shoop the keys and said, "go get your guys."
 
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#39
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TennVols423 said:
Debord needs to go as well, our play calling is too predictable.

Shoops should've been able to bring his own assistants with him, I can't say that's 100% the fault behind our defensive issues but I believe had he brought his guys in we would've been a little better off.

Azzani I think needs to go, we have an insane amount of receiver talent but see very little production because of a lack of a passing qb out of that group as a whole.

If Botch Jones doesn't find another gig, he needs to clean house. Only problem is, what legitimate asst. going to come here knowing his ass is scorching red come next season.
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Fixed your post
 
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volfan102455 said:
I am not sold on Shoop at all. I think his success was primarily due to those around him. They haven't lost a beat with him not there.
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And his lack of success at UT this year is because he wasn't allowed to bring "those around him" to UT.
 
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#41
#41
Great, more speculation threads.

If Trey Smith commits to OSU, Mahoney is gone. If UT, he stays, at least for a while.
 
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spudvol said:
435 points in 12 games in 2016 is our best offensive output in 20 years( Manning's junior year 1996- 437 points in 12 games). For those of you wanting DeBord gone, what more could he have done?
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And over 1/3 of those points came against two teams that are 11-13 and a 5-6 FCS school......
 
#43
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JMSqb11 said:
And over 1/3 of those points came against two teams that are 11-13 and a 5-6 FCS school......
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Which Teams? We scored 55 against Tenn Tech and 28 Against Ohio. That is less than 21% of our points You are smoking crack.

We scored:
App St. 20
VT 45
Ohio 28
Florida 38
Georgia 34
A&M 38
Alabama 10
SC 21
Tenn Tech 55
Kentucky 49
Missouri 63
Vandy 34

That is 66% of our Total offense against SEC competition. You should check your math before making outlandish claims.:thud:
 
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johnrlansford said:
Which Teams? We scored 55 against Tenn Tech and 28 Against Ohio. That is less than 21% of our points You are smoking crack.

We scored:
App St. 20
VT 45
Ohio 28
Florida 38
Georgia 34
A&M 38
Alabama 10
SC 21
Tenn Tech 55
Kentucky 49
Missouri 63
Vandy 34

That is 66% of our Total offense against SEC competition. You should check your math before making outlandish claims.:thud:
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20 points against App was pitiful and DeBord ran a peewee-level offensive despite the game being in the balance. The 45 against Virginia Tech was heavily turnover-aided. Ohio performance was lukewarm at best. Florida was one horrid half and one incredible one. Georgia performance was uneven. 7 turnovers against A&M despite moving the ball up and down the field with ease. I won't even elaborate about Alabama. South Carolina offensive performance was atrocious.

The offense in the last 4 games of the year was better, but look at the competition.
 
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#45
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johnrlansford said:
Which Teams? We scored 55 against Tenn Tech and 28 Against Ohio. That is less than 21% of our points You are smoking crack.

We scored:
App St. 20
VT 45
Ohio 28
Florida 38
Georgia 34
A&M 38
Alabama 10
SC 21
Tenn Tech 55
Kentucky 49
Missouri 63
Vandy 34

That is 66% of our Total offense against SEC competition. You should check your math before making outlandish claims.:thud:
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UK, Mizzou, and Tenn Tech.... That is over 1/3 of our offensive output. Two SEC teams that are 11-13 and a 5-6 FCS Team.... Math is hard for you.

If that is an "outlandish" claim, you need to smoke crack then because you aren't and you can't do simple math or understand a post....
 
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#46
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Vol_guy said:
I expect to see Don Mahoney and Willie Martinez fired. Our secondary and offensive line have been this team's biggest weakness for more than just this season. Let debord coach the o-line and hire a qb coach.
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I'd be for going after Randy Clements at Baylor for Oline coach, George Barlow at NC State at DB coach. He coaxed with Shoop at Vandy. Bobby Petrino's son is qb coach for Louisville. Let's make him a good offer!
 
#47
#47
Cartervol said:
Pretty much..No one worth their salt will come here.. Hyams basically agreed with Mark Howard on Jones being on the hot seat for next year. No one is going to stick their neck out for that..No one worth a crap anyway...
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Thing about the "hot seat" is you can get off it with a turn around year.

Look at Franklin at PSU going into the season and after losing to Pitt there were movers rounding the corner toward his house. Then he upsets OSU and suddenly he's great.

Look at Malzahn, he was one LSU score from getting fired instead of Les Miles. Then they go on a run and he's safe.

Believe me, I have my doubts about Jones but I'm not going to act like next year is his last as a done deal.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Thing about the "hot seat" is you can get off it with a turn around year.

Look at Franklin at PSU going into the season and after losing to Pitt there were movers rounding the corner toward his house. Then he upsets OSU and suddenly he's great.

Look at Malzahn, he was one LSU score from getting fired instead of Les Miles. Then they go on a run and he's safe.

Believe me, I have my doubts about Jones but I'm not going to act like next year is his last as a done deal.
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Even the Pitt loss doesn't look so bad since they beat Clemson....
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Even the Pitt loss doesn't look so bad since they beat Clemson....
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Well Jones beat Va Tech who won the Coastal and gave Clemson all they could handle.

You can't really cherry pick "good" losses for other teams and ignore similar games for TN just because you don't like Butch Jones.

My point was the hot seat is fluid and can change in the course of a week during the season.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Well Jones beat Va Tech who won the Coastal and gave Clemson all they could handle.

You can't really cherry pick "good" losses for other teams and ignore similar games for TN just because you don't like Butch Jones.

My point was the hot seat is fluid and can change in the course of a week during the season.
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Pitt had a common opponent for two teams in the playoff chase... This has nothing to do with Tennessee..

Pitt beat two teams that were in the playoff mix. Bringing in Va Tech and Tennessee have nothing to do with Penn State getting a playoff bid or not.
 
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