Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXX

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Seems odd Shoop isn't scheduled to visit anyone

I did not catch that

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

Keep an eye on WVU if Holgerson were to go to Houston. Butch has a history there.

 

[31VFL]

What all coaching changes do you think will arise over the off season and do you think these will occur before or after the bowl game?
First of all I think butch will be back next year however, What do you think is the percent that does happen?
And obviously it's early but if butch is back what is a realistic record expectation?

Brice's answer

I think most would occur post-bowl game unless some vacancies prompt opportunities for some Vols assts sooner.
I would be quite surprised if CBJ is not back next year, from the viewpoint of both sides.
I think there's a mandate on 9-3, 10-2 likely next year or something similar that includes an SEC East title.

 

[BruinVol]

Seems odd Shoop isn't scheduled to visit anyone

I think there is a much better chance Shoop leaves town than butch

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

I did not catch that

Don't see Martinez name either.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

don't see martinez name either.

👏🏻

 

[31VFL]

Will shoop be back?

50/50, IMO. Shoop has been a finalist for that Delaware job, and I know if he does remain it's very likely he will bring in some help on the defensive side of the ball.

-Brice

He also said he could see Martinez going to Miami.

 

[LA Vol]

Mullen and PJ Fleck on Houston's short list. Mullen also on Oregon's short list, if/when Helfrich is fired. Brian Kelly's agent is putting feelers out to the NFL.

 

[McGeesPub]

Brice's answer

I just don't think that type of mandate is healthy for anyone, especially in a transitional year. Obviously things unfolded differently in November 2016, but if you described that type of mandate in January 2016, I think most would say "Yeah, that's doable."

Now you have to contend with a potential mass replacement of coaches, the graduation of legit difference makers, and an unhappy HC- especially in light of a mandate.

I know we may end up being stuck with each other, but those type situations never end well.

 

[drylo]

I think there is a much better chance Shoop leaves town than butch

Does Father Ryan need a special teams coach or something?

 

[Captain Mitch]

We get the "ranked 17" tag put on us at the end of
the season with a lot on the line. Yet again the 17 curse has hit

 

[Aesius]

Mullen and PJ Fleck on Houston's short list. Mullen also on Oregon's short list, if/when Helfrich is fired. Brian Kelly's agent is putting feelers out to the NFL.

Butch to Miss State!

 

[jave36]

Mullen and PJ Fleck on Houston's short list. Mullen also on Oregon's short list, if/when Helfrich is fired. Brian Kelly's agent is putting feelers out to the NFL.

Houston an upgrade over MSU?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Bring. Kiffin. Home.

He has unfinished business with some coeds.

His Lexus is sitting in a barn somewhere all fueled up.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

I just wanna give props to Josh Malone...he has quietly had a pretty damn good year. Has improved tremendously

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Will shoop be back?

50/50, IMO. Shoop has been a finalist for that Delaware job, and I know if he does remain it's very likely he will bring in some help on the defensive side of the ball. [\QUOTE]
-Brice

He also said he could see Martinez going to Miami.

I hope Shoop stays and has freedom to hire who he wants. Shoop is better than this. He was top 3 grades DCs in the country. You don't just forget how to coach defense over night. There is more to it than that

 

[amazingGRACE]

Assuming butch is back next year what do y'all think a realistic record is?

Georgia Tech in ATL W
Indiana Stata W
@Florida L
UMass W
Georgia L
USCe W
@ Alabama L
@ Kentucky W
Southern Miss W
@ Missouri W
LSU L
Vanderbilt W


EDIT: GT is a toss up though. Obviously can't count Vandy or USCe as a sure win either.

 

[LA Vol]

Butch to Miss State!

He would be expected to win the Egg Bowl every year. Lotta pressure.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I just wanna give props to Josh Malone...he has quietly had a pretty damn good year. Has improved tremendously

Hope he stays

 

[McGeesPub]

Houston an upgrade over MSU?

It is over Starkville for sure.

But yeah, I was surprised to see that as well. I figured if Mullen would leave, it would be something definitively better...like an Oregon.

If those are the caliber of coaches Houston is looking at though, I don't really see them having much interest in Butch.

 

[jordan4vols]

Mullen and PJ Fleck on Houston's short list. Mullen also on Oregon's short list, if/when Helfrich is fired. Brian Kelly's agent is putting feelers out to the NFL.

Now Butch could go to ND and justify it as a dream job or move up. I don't think ND would want him though

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Assuming butch is back next year what do y'all think a realistic record is?

Georgia Tech in ATL W
Indiana Stata W
@Florida L
UMass W
Georgia L
USCe W
@ Alabama L
@ Kentucky W
Southern Miss W
@ Missouri W
LSU L
Vanderbilt W

Would be lucky to only lose 4 imo

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Hope he stays

Yeah me too. He only needs 148 yards to hit 1000 for the year.

 

[jave36]

Assuming butch is back next year what do y'all think a realistic record is?

Georgia Tech in ATL W
Indiana Stata W
@Florida L
UMass W
Georgia L
USCe W
@ Alabama L
@ Kentucky W
Southern Miss W
@ Missouri W
LSU L
Vanderbilt W

We have the roster to beat UGA and UF, so I'd say we at least split

 

[Aesius]

I just wanna give props to Josh Malone...he has quietly had a pretty damn good year. Has improved tremendously

Dobbs has honestly had a great year as well.

If somebody told me pre-season that he would post stats of:

2,655 yards passing, 26 TDs, 12 INTs, 63.3% completion

and

713 yards rushing, 9 TDs

through 12 games, I would definitely think we were going 10-2 or 11-1.