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I feel like 8-4 was kind of a worst case scenario this year. Probably good enough to avoid getting Butch fired, but lousy enough to disappoint practically everyone in the fanbase. Hard to see how this turns out well for us.

I thought 8-4 was the floor for this team and 11-1 was the ceiling back in August.

when I say floor, I mean, Hal Mumme could have gotten us to 8 wins
 
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I had heard earlier this week that Butch wanted out. Didn't want to believe it but is usually reliable. I think tonight proved it to be accurate. He doesn't want to be here anymore. If he stays without a change of attitude then it will be toxic. He either needs to commit to trying to get this right or just leave. One foot out the door doesn't work for anyone. Just do us a favor and take another job Butch.

Heard the same thing. Heard he had communication with ND. He's probably effed that up now.
 
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Everyone needs to calm down with the fire Butch stuff and think... Do you want Dave Hart to hire the next coach and have our new AD's hands tied? Give Butch one more year and one last chance to prove himself.

But if Butch bolts... I'd want Kiffin.
 
Everyone needs to calm down with the fire Butch stuff and think... Do you want Dave Hart to hire the next coach and have our new AD's hands tied? Give Butch one more year and one last chance to prove himself.

But if Butch bolts... I'd want Kiffin.

NO ONE would be excited about another year with Butch at the helm. Not even Butch himself. I won't go to a single game next year if he's coaching.
 
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I thought 8-4 was the floor for this team and 11-1 was the ceiling back in August.

when I say floor, I mean, Hal Mumme could have gotten us to 8 wins

This team was just a hair from +or- 2 wins this season. Either one would have made the path forward far more clear. We're sort of in coaching change limbo, now.
 
Everyone needs to calm down with the fire Butch stuff and think... Do you want Dave Hart to hire the next coach and have our new AD's hands tied? Give Butch one more year and one last chance to prove himself.

But if Butch bolts... I'd want Kiffin.

Yeah, the timing for this couldn't possibly be worse.

But a lame duck coach will only put us further into oblivion.
 
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Everyone needs to calm down with the fire Butch stuff and think... Do you want Dave Hart to hire the next coach and have our new AD's hands tied? Give Butch one more year and one last chance to prove himself.

But if Butch bolts... I'd want Kiffin.

If Butch were to leave hart would have zero influence in who we hired.
 
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