Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXX

[vol2002]

I didn't hear it, but he seems really upset.

Wonder if he talks much to Cuonzo. Cuonzo could tell him how miserable it was to make one of the programs 7 alltime sweet sixteen runs.

 

[orangefreak21]

Winning with another coach's players isn't really a thing in the NFL, or in pro sports in general.

I understand where the sentiment comes from, but feel it is incorrect.

Coaches, along with front office, "build" their team in the nfl too.

Gruden stepped into a great situation that Dungy helped build. He, Dungy, brought in players and established a winning culture the Bucs were not a custom to.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Amen.....


"Butch says that when he talks to people about what this program has done in last 4 years feels like the success they've had gets minimized."

Butch: I don't why the success this program has had the past four years is minimized. I don't get it.

Butch: We’ve won 14 of our past 17 games. I don’t understand why people are minimizing that. We’ve come a long, long way.

Butch: Coaches across the country visit us all the time, asking us how we’ve turned this thing around. I don’t get people minimizing it.

Hmm, starting to sound like he's setting up the reasoning for why he leaves our program for somewhere else.

 

[csprig9]

Shut Wes ruckers Twitter up volation, Wes is an idiot has always been an idiot and will always be an idiot

 

[McGeesPub]

Coaches, along with front office, "build" their team in the nfl too.

Gruden stepped into a great situation that Dungy helped build. He, Dungy, brought in players and established a winning culture the Bucs were not a custom to.

Dungy did a great job there, but typically coaches only have a say on the 45 man active roster and in some cases, the 53 man roster at the end of camp. Since the difference is usually fringe guys, usually that won't have a huge impact on a team.

But the point is still invalid. The backbone of the Bucs great defense- Sapp, Brooks, Lynch- all preceded Dungy. So hard to say they were really his players either.

 

[McGeesPub]

Can we get an example of some of the one liners you plan to use on the turkey?

With who was cooking the turkey (me), I'm surprised we didn't get SMOKED (how I usually cook).

 

[orangefreak21]

Hmm, starting to sound like he's setting up the reasoning for why he leaves our program for somewhere else.

That's how some will spin it.

Or he just doesn't want the work he's put into the program minimized. And make no mistake.. for all his faults and dumb stuff he says, Butch has worked his ass off to bring the VOLS back to life.

 

[JCP201]

Hmm, starting to sound like he's setting up the reasoning for why he leaves our program for somewhere else.

I think he's setting us up to pull a Cuonzo.


Now,the champions of life thing went viral and it got ridiculous after a few hours, but you gotta have a sense of humor sometimes.

The thing is, for every negative person, there are five positive. So, if he's setting us up, I don't feel it's on the fans. The fans fill the stadium (first in the Nation) and if you go to any messageboard of major programs, they are pretty much the same. He may have a thin skin for this kind of thing, but if he thinks a place like Notre dame wouldn't be as brutal, he would be in for a shock. (edit, obviously he should know since he follows kelly everywhere)

 

[WallyBalls]

Is there another fan base anywhere that pays as much attention to a coach's weekly press conferences as Tennessee?

Its downright odd.

I might watch bits of 1 or 2 a year if I've got down time. Otherwise, you couldn't pay me to sit through one. That goes for my teams in the NFL, MLB, any where.

I'll skim a recap if there is actual news (injury, position change, etc), otherwise its background noise and cut-ups for Gus Manning's little show he still does.

 

[tn4elvis]

The comments after one of the reporters post a quote of something Butch says on Twitter are a disgrace.

I don't understand why so many dislike Butch.

It's not that people don't like him.Just less talk and win something of importance and he wont have any problems. The fan base is starving for championships not moral victories.Butch needs to learn not to take everything to heart and just roll with it.

 

[chavisut]

GBFO


Beat Vandy. Weownwestend

 

[Big Sun]

So, for the 90% of you who have clogged this thread with absolute garbage for the past 3-4 days, are you all planning on logging on tomorrow to b!tch that your turkey is too hot, your sweet potato casserole is too sweet, the pumpkin pie is too rich, etc.? Or will you just gripe about it with your family/loved ones in private? Just curious.

this post was a little too salty for my taste.

 

[tomq_123]

Shut Wes ruckers Twitter up volation, Wes is an idiot has always been an idiot and will always be an idiot

I have no idea how to read and understand Twitter. I'm Ok with that.

 

[amazingGRACE]

They're discussing it on midday 180 now..what happens if Florida beats FSU but loses to Alabama? Would we finish ahead of them?

Assuming we beat Vanderbilt.

 

[JCP201]

Maybe he was upset about this

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/reporter-compares-tennessee-football-team-to-fried-turkey

 

[orangefreak21]

Dungy did a great job there, but typically coaches only have a say on the 45 man active roster and in some cases, the 53 man roster at the end of camp. Since the difference is usually fringe guys, usually that won't have a huge impact on a team.

But the point is still invalid. The backbone of the Bucs great defense- Sapp, Brooks, Lynch- all preceded Dungy. So hard to say they were really his players either.

Sapp and Brooks had played one season and they both credit Dungy to turning the Bucs around.

Dungy brought In or helped bring it Simeon Rice, Mike Alstott, Warwick Dunn, Keyshawn Johnson and Martin Gramatica. Among others..

It's safe to say that team had his hand print firmly on it.

 

[theutvolunteers]

Boring the Vol family with his platitudes is part of the problem. Drop the coachspeak and talk like a human being. That, and losing to South Carolina. I like the guy, but since you don't understand.

I don't see the point of relentlessly blasting the guy.

 

[theutvolunteers]

That's how some will spin it.

Or he just doesn't want the work he's put into the program minimized. And make no mistake.. for all his faults and dumb stuff he says, Butch has worked his ass off to bring the VOLS back to life.

I can agree with this.

 

[volfanCLT]

They're discussing it on midday 180 now..what happens if Florida beats FSU but loses to Alabama? Would we finish ahead of them?

Assuming we beat Vanderbilt.

Would be close. Both would have 3 losses, we won head to head, but they played in ATL.

Think it would depend how they look in those 2 games.

 

[barrylee]

Ha. It is! I remember in the Dooley years thinking man, I'd given anything to even get back to the early and mid 2000s when we were winning ~10 games, were always in the top 25 and part of the national conversation, were producing first round talent, were beating our rivals.

Well, we are there now and it is just as miserable as the Dooley years.

It really doesn't matter who the coach is or the type of season we have, there will be those same posters spewing their vitriol here! They can always see the fault with any situation, no way to change them..

 

[McGeesPub]

Sapp and Brooks had played one season and they both credit Dungy to turning the Bucs around.

Dungy brought In or helped bring it Simeon Rice, Mike Alstott, Warwick Dunn, Keyshawn Johnson and Martin Gramatica. Among others..

It's safe to say that team had his hand print firmly on it.

Dunn wasn't on the SB team so hard to say Gruden got that benefit.

But if you want to take this tack, Gruden had his handprint all over his SB adversary, so the argument that Gruden only won with someone else's players is a bit self conflicting.

 

[PowerOrange]

Nm.

I thought our players were better than they actually are on defense. Until we lost our Dts I think we were about middle of the pack.

Safety. I thought that TKjr and whoever won the spot beside him was going to form one of the better tandems in the SEC. They are just average.

Kongbo. I thought he was going to at least have an impact. He gets abused when he goes in.

Linebackers. JRM and Kirkland are extremely talented. Their backups are not and they are the ones who have played the most snaps.

Corner. I thought Martin was going to have a good year. He shows us that there is more to talent than being tall and fast. Sutton missed most games.

I will say if our offense had their best five olinemen healthy then I would take it over anyone in the SEC. Dobbs' inconsistency can completely shut it down, but when he is hot they have the ability to run over elite defenses. That and we need the coaches to call every game like it is Florida.

 

[VOLinCO]

Wes Rucker is being ridiculous with the "champions of life" thing on twitter.

None of the other beat writers I follow are joining him. But he just keeps on going.

From a distant observer of Rucker's "reporting", the guy seems to be a hack.

Never will forget the night of the bar fight when Dooley was coach. Based on Rucker's tweets, one would believe that half the team was involved in multiple incidences across the E TN area that evening, and there were potentially fatalities. UT would probably have to seriously consider cancelling the season.

 

[butchna]

It really doesn't matter who the coach is or the type of season we have, there will be those same posters spewing their vitriol here! They can always see the fault with any situation, no way to change them..

They want a fresh splat puppet. Nothing if not hygienic.

 

[VOLinCO]

I'm expecting CBJ to be at TN next season. But, if he decided to leave, why settle for Gruden. Go for Mike Tomlin...experience coaching in college and in the state of TN, 2 Super Bowl rings (1 as assistant at Tampa Bay), VA roots, and now only getting $500K more than Gruden.

Offer the man a $2 million raise, Peyton as OC and let the good times roll!