Danny O"Brien dismissed from team

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IluvdoubleD's said:
The lack of understanding about cannabis from the folks that live in the state of Tennessee is staggering. you guys are not getting the education because the state is so strict in it's substance laws. Cannabis is habituating, it is not addictive. You can kick it if you go a few weeks without, and yes that can be difficult, but no worse than anything else in life, and certainly easier than kicking alcohol. You're mind makes it's own cannabinoids, just like the stuff in cannabis. When you artificially introduce these cannabinoids into your system on a regular basis your brain goes "wait a second, we have too much of this stuff" and it shuts down production. When you quit smoking your brain is no longer making these cannabinoids and you feel like you are going without. Cannabinoids are chemicals that relax you and control stress so you get agitated and angry easily for a few weeks. After that you're brain goes "wait a second, we don't have enough of this stuff" and begins production again. Then you no longer feel the physical need for cannabis.

In addiction your brain is altered and unable to repair itself. You then have a brain disease that needs help beyond what you are able to control. You spiral out of control.

and now you know.
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I read once that the emitters which shut down in opioid abuse will, for the most part, come back to life but it takes a long time.. Article said as a general rule of thumb, one month for every year of abuse.. That's assuming proper diet and exercise..

Was what I read BS?
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
A few tried explaining this but its the green thumbs vs the get off my green lawn crowd up in here ruining a thread about a player we all care about.
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This thread is about pissing away an opportunity. I hope he does well but don't make this out to be a pity party for DOB. I don't feel sorry for him in the least. He is going to make his $$. He is just being a poor team mate by not avoiding pot for 7 more weeks.
 
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I should have just quoted 34, would have been quicker.
Hipaa doesn't apply to the University once you sign the consents, but applies to the public.
 
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Orange_Scooter said:
Nobody gives crap, dummy. By the by, Colorado isn't the only place that grows pot. Plenty of it in every state. I've seen the harm that sex, gambling, alcohol, food, tobacco, talking on cells while driving, playing with guns, steroids, prescription drugs, and a ton of other stuff can do but I won't get on a freaking soapbox on it like you. You've turned a thread about Danny's dismissal into a freaking weed debate because you like proselytizing. You've made your opinion well known by now, so STFU.
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Had I said that, I would have been called rude. Just because I take pride in being so is beside the point.
But well said.
 
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m1al said:
I read once that the emitters which shut down in opioid abuse will, for the most part, come back to life but it takes a long time.. Article said as a general rule of thumb, one month for every year of abuse.. That's assuming proper diet and exercise..

Was what I read BS?
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Yes
 
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kiddiedoc said:
If a patient comes in after an injury and has altered mental status, neuro changes, abnormal vital signs, etc, a tox screen could be indicated to rule out other causes for such findings. Very common test in trauma cases.
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Totally agree. We typically have no reason to test unless obvious signs warrant it. Usually, if it is a known injury (i.e. a broken bone) then I see little reason to perform a tox screen.

Most don't self report a drug issue when admitted, but when admitted a patient agrees to routine testing necessary to obtain diagnoses. Is a tox screen routine? Maybe, maybe not. Bottom line, it can be done. We don't do it often at all...mainly when there are psychiatric complaints.
 
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I knew a nurse at UT that worked in the er. She has said before that they tested blood and urine anytime they had a UT player come in. I would assume truthful, but you never know I guess. Almost like workman's comp in a sense. Get hurt on the job and they have the right to test you.
 
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chargervol said:
For anyone interested

There are several consent forms signed for the release of private info in arrangement of playing for universities.
The info may not be made public but there is a lengthy list to which your records (tests etc) are made known.
Hipaa is not loophole free for the sharing of records among the university and partners.
this is just the AD version but there is also NCAA and "related" to University medical (insurance co.mpanies etc.)
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These are the consequences. Doesn't say anything about being blood tested while in the hospital without consent. He failed a urine test either before the game or today. I would put $$ on it. You sign the same thing when you are employed and are put in a drug pool.
 
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chargervol said:
I should have just quoted 34, would have been quicker.
Hipaa doesn't apply to the University once you sign the consents, but applies to the public.
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Hipaa applies to everyone but the military. Hipaa doesn't cover drug tests as a matter of employment or playing sports. Ergo urine vs blood at hospital.
 
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It sucks and Tennessee could def use him in the trenches but its all on him. He had his free pass and chose to go to the well one more time.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
These are the consequences. Doesn't say anything about being blood tested while in the hospital without consent. He failed a urine test either before the game or today. I would put $$ on it. You sign the same thing when you are employed and are put in a drug pool.
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Urine test is very likely.
My point was, they give consent to be tested at any time and the information can be shared with everyone on listed onthe consent form.
It's kinda irrelevant to which way they tested in or when, just that they had the right to and share the information amongst anyone listed.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
It sucks and Tennessee could def use him in the trenches but its all on him. He had his free pass and chose to go to the well one more time.
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I wish him well and hope he seeks help for his addiction. Having said that we will be fine on the D line we've got guys that can fill in and others who can elevate their game.
 
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chargervol said:
Urine test is very likely.
My point was, they give consent to be tested at any time and the information can be shared with everyone on listed onthe consent form.
It's kinda irrelevant to which way they tested in or when, just that they had the right to and share the information amongst anyone listed.
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It's also irrelevant because he is gone. Sad...
 
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SandoVOL said:
Players are not being kicked from the team for drinking alcohol despite its long term effects, so personal responsibility is apparently not the issue either lol
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LOL....alcohol isn't illegal; weed still is in most of the country.

Also, a player CAN be kicked off for drinking alcohol if they are caught getting drunk, they are underage, and/or if the team rules are no alcohol.

Not to mention you switched from talking about the issue nationwide back to specifically about the team.
 
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I can tell who the millenials are in here :p Regardless of your opinion on weed, the fact is that all players agree to abstain as a condition to being on the team. They know the rules. Not only that, but it can make you much less reactive and productive on the field. Why risk it? You hurt yourself and your team. I hate it for him, but he made his choices. *Assuming of course this is the reason he was dismissed.
 
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VFL34 do you have any idea how the team will respond to this? I am concerned about that- especially before such a critical game. Danny was a popular player and the whole team was emotional for him when he got injured. Such a turn of events.
 
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