Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXVI

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SpringBokVol said:
Barnett is the only sure first rounder.
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He's actually the least likely of our first rounders.

He's not very gifted physically and is highly rated mainly because of his production which comes mostly from how hard he plays.

Hurd and Sutton are our surest bets to go in the 1st round.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
His stock will drop at the combine. He's not that great an athlete.

While Dobbs, Hurd, and Sutton are sure to rip the combine, I think Barnett could fall from a subpar performance.
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Lol...do you even watch film? A NFL scout will pop in his film, and those combine numbers will be a distant memory.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
My humble pre-season prediction.

Barnett - top 10
Sutton - late 1st
Hurd - mid 2nd
JRM - late 2nd
Dobbs - 3rd
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Dobbs - top 10
Sutton - top 10
Hurd - mid 1st
Barnett - late 1st

Kamara - mid 2nd
JRM - late 2nd

Weisman - 4th
Croom - 4th
Vereen - 6th
Foreman - 6th
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Lol...do you even watch film? A NFL scout will pop in his film, and those combine numbers will be a distant memory.
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That's why he'll still go in the 1st round. But a subpar combine can drop him 10-15 spots.

Look no further than Laquon Treadwell. He ran a poor 40 and from top 10 pick to the early 20s.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
Here's a thought.

Dormady should pass for more yards in week 1 than Dobbs.


IMO after UT is up 3 scores by halftime and the run game has dominated, I'd like Butch to sit Dobbs. Let QD run the offense and give WR recruits a taste of what the pass game can be.
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Why would he do that if Guarantano is the future?

JG will be the starter in 17.
 
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jrvfl said:
"it’s early, but ut feels good about incoming class. One official said it might be butch jones' most close-knit in 10 years as head coach. Tyler byrd has impressed, displaying skills as wr and db. One person said he could become first-round draft pick. Quickest of signees. Byrd could be the steal of the class along with brandon johnson, a polished wr and long ball threat. Wr marquez callaway (who has best hands on team) and wr latrell williams have great speed and are long-ball threats who can stretch field. S nigel warrior has elite ability and great instincts. Mlb daniel bituli will play special teams and could be backup to darrin kirkland jr. Ut loves qb jarrett guarantano, who has good, accurate arm and mobility. `he may be a special player,’ one source said. Ot marcus tatum has gained about 15 to 20 pounds and is up to about 275. Juco de jonathan kongbo has gained up to about 280." - hyams
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15-0 here we come.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I didn't even realize it until someone talked about this year being a bad class so far, but Butch's first class that he cobbled together (his worst) has 8 who are big contributors. Dobbs, Sutton, JRM, J. Smith, Kendrick, Weisman, Vereen, and Vickers. Pretty good for his worst class.
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Butch has a good eye for talent.

He signed Antonio Brown and JJ Watt in his first class at Central Michigan.
 
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LA Vol said:
FSU could give Vols lots of enjoyment this fall. The 'Noles could get Ole Miss' season off to a bad start, issue their annual chopchop on the Gators and keep Clemson out of the playoffs. As a bonus, they could disappoint all those hater Canes who are still pissed at us for poaching Byrd and Williams.

Bring on football!
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We'll be playing them in Tampa for the national title. After us, they are the most talented team in the country.

CFB Playoff:

1. Tennessee
2. Florida State
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
 
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Only 4 out of the last 14 posts aren't ignore messages. I must be missing out on a lot of knowledge. :)
 
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Aesius said:
While I don't think it will happen, it would be very disheartening if Smart/Eason end up being great in year one AND McElwain cruises to another 9-10 win season.

My hope is that Smart has some serious growing pains as a coach, Eason is clearly a year away, and McElwain begins a slow descent due to losing all of Muschamp's players on defense over the next two seasons.

Speaking of Muschamp--I actually think South Carolina hiring him was a decent move, especially if he can recruit defensive talent.

Best case scenario is he succeeds and stays there. Worst case scenario is he fails and leaves the next guy with a stocked cupboard on defense. And finding guys who can run high-octane offenses is easy. Building defense is the hard part, IMO.
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Georgia will be better than people think this year. I got them going 10-2 finishing 2nd in the East.

But they'll be worse than people expect next year. With everyone we're bound to lose, they'll be the preseason pick to win the East and a top 10 team in 2017 but finish 2nd once again at 10-2.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Is that the story?
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As usual, after losing a top recruit the discussion shifts at some point to the player was paid. This time I believe the one bringing the info tried a bit too hard. When they said the 250 grand had already changed hands in July, most should have known to call BS.

My post about Tee using some of the cash to buy a car and commit to us was just me making a joke. If you're willing to buy a recruit for a quarter of a million in cash, I'd bet you know better than to fork over the money six months before its a done deal.
 
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Man, I know its a long way until signing day and we could really turn some heads if we live up to expectations on the field this season, but I can't get over all the instate talent committing and trending elsewhere... Higgins and Amari being talked about as maybe exchanging cash, Smith crystal balling to AL, Hayden and Chandler could go either way, and Richardson and Stevens have committed and/or are going elsewhere... then to top it all off, Gibbs(lives in GA) who most have thought has been our strongest silent, is now trending to GA... SMH something just doesn't smell right to have all of this potentially going elsewhere when we finished so strong and have been hyped to move mountains this fall...
 
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volinbama256 said:
Man, I know its a long way until signing day and we could really turn some heads if we live up to expectations on the field this season, but I can't get over all the instate talent committing and trending elsewhere... Higgins and Amari being talked about as maybe exchanging cash, Smith crystal balling to AL, Hayden and Chandler could go either way, and Richardson and Stevens have committed and/or are going elsewhere... then to top it all off, Gibbs(lives in GA) who most have thought has been our strongest silent, is now trending to GA... SMH something just doesn't smell right to have all of this potentially going elsewhere when we finished so strong and have been hyped to move mountains this fall...
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Something does seem off. IMO we had shown the improvement needed to sell the future to recruits. For whatever reason they aren't buying. Some of the board seems sure winning ten will all a sudden flip some kind of switch for the top recruits that 9 wins obviously didn't, and they will come running to UT.
 
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volinbama256 said:
Man, I know its a long way until signing day and we could really turn some heads if we live up to expectations on the field this season, but I can't get over all the instate talent committing and trending elsewhere... Higgins and Amari being talked about as maybe exchanging cash, Smith crystal balling to AL, Hayden and Chandler could go either way, and Richardson and Stevens have committed and/or are going elsewhere... then to top it all off, Gibbs(lives in GA) who most have thought has been our strongest silent, is now trending to GA... SMH something just doesn't smell right to have all of this potentially going elsewhere when we finished so strong and have been hyped to move mountains this fall...
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I agree. I've been holding out hope all summer that it was all too early to tell, but this doesn't seem right. Something just isn't working at the moment in recruiting for us.

I haven't heard many people talk about how we haven't had anyone drafted to the NFL the last two years. I wonder if that has more significance in negative recruiting against us than folks realize.

We need to win this fall - I agree with the sentiment that winning will cure all wounds. But I am definitely surprised by the current state of recruiting - I thought we got over the winning hump with the 2015 season's top 25 finish, winning 2 out of 4 over ranked opponents, 6 game win streak, ending the losing streak to GA, crushing the 13th ranked team in a New Year's bowl, etc.

Bottom line: I think at this moment in time, Tennessee is still held in low opinion by recruits. I think we are viewed in the category of Arkansas, Mississippi State and South Carolina by outsiders and casual football fans.

I know we view ourselves in the category of Bama, LSU, Georgia and Florida, but we have to win a lot of ball games for others to view us that way.
 
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