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[SuperDave]

No one here has tried to rationalize their belief. You however, are insisting that you have all the answers EVEN WHEN you posted that there is a 99.9% chance that your decision was based on incorrect information. You really are beginning to reach a troll status that will eclipse LG. I NEVER thought that I would see that day.

I said 99.9% of the christians don't know how the bible came to be. If they did know they wouldn't be christians.. unless they are scamming people or incredibly dense.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I said 99.9% of the christians don't know how the bible came to be. If they did know they wouldn't be christians.. unless they are scamming people or incredibly dense.

I'm going to just say, you assume as much as the ones you're criticizing.

 

[MercyPercy]

Yes I do know that fact. That is true. I think that it's unfortunate that many scientists who believe that are not or do not feel comfortable saying it publicly.

Roughly 33% of american scientists say they believe in god, yet 97%(more if we're going to only count relevant scientific fields) accept evolution(as a macro event, before we start down that silliness).

What exactly are you implying?

 

[Obsessed]

I said 99.9% of the christians don't know how the bible came to be. If they did know they wouldn't be christians.. unless they are scamming people or incredibly dense.

I love it when opinion is stated as fact. Absolutely love it....

One thing I can emphatically state with certainty is liberals have no ****ing idea what a FACT is...

Opinions are not FACTS....

Jesus, are you my "ex" FIL?

 

[Obsessed]

Roughly 33% of american scientists say they believe in god, yet 97%(more if we're going to only count relevant scientific fields) accept evolution(as a macro event, before we start down that silliness).

What exactly are you implying?

What percentage of scientist have been polled?

 

[Carl Pickens]

What percentage of scientist have been polled?

I'd say the majority have lost their virginity

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I love it when opinion is stated as fact. Absolutely love it....

One thing I can emphatically state with certainty is liberals have no ****ing idea what a FACT is...

Opinions are not FACTS....

Jesus, are you my "ex" FIL?

As if only liberals have this problem.

 

[MercyPercy]

What percentage of scientist have been polled?

http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/528.pdf

Bottom of page 57 for the methodology.

It's a sound statistical sample. I'm sure any stats people here who read it will attest to the validity of the sampling. Pew knows what they're doing.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I'd say the majority have lost their virginity

I see what you did there.

 

[Obsessed]

As if only liberals have this problem.

Thanks. Very informative.

 

[Obsessed]

http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/528.pdf

Bottom of page 57 for the methodology.

It's a sound statistical sample. I'm sure any stats people here who read it will attest to the validity of the sampling. Pew knows what they're doing.

So....

 

[MercyPercy]

So....

?

Do you have a point, or what?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

?

Do you have a point, or what?

I think you confused him by predicting exactly what his reaction would be.

 

[MercyPercy]

I think you confused him by predicting exactly what his reaction would be.

I fear I'll be giving a lesson in prob&stats 101 here shortly.

 

[Obsessed]

I fear I'll be giving a lesson in prob&stats 101 here shortly.

Please do...

 

[Obsessed]

I think you confused him by predicting exactly what his reaction would be.

You are so cute....

 

[MercyPercy]

Please do...

~2,500(I can't remember exactly how many participated) is a plenty large enough sample to make statements about the entire population of scientists in the US assuming the sampling methodology was legitimate. As far as I can tell, it was, and considering this is what Pew does(research through polling), you would have to show me where they went wrong. I believe they said their margin of error was 2.5%.

Here is a website which calculates what a valid sample size would be for any population given. Play with it for a while.

Sample Size Calculator - Confidence Level, Confidence Interval, Sample Size, Population Size, Relevant Population - Creative Research Systems

 

[SuperDave]

I love it when opinion is stated as fact. Absolutely love it....

One thing I can emphatically state with certainty is liberals have no ****ing idea what a FACT is...

Opinions are not FACTS....

Jesus, are you my "ex" FIL?

It's not hard to find the truth if you want to but you choose to believe in a fairy tale.

Until christians can prove god is real they shouldn't say **** about facts.

 

[Orange_Crush]

There are over 5000 copies of the new testament in Greek alone. Many more thousands in Latin, coptic, Syriac, Gothic, Armenian, Ethiopic and Slavic. There is no other work from antiquity that is attested as the new testament. Besides errors from copying, spelling etc they all agree. They have the same details etc. We have papyrus from the gospel of John that dates to around 125 ad. For anyone to suggest that the new testament isn't well attested is just plain dishonest or uniformed. The new testament is solid.

When Christianity started the gospels went out into the world. It was never in the hands of a certain group. It's been copied and recopied down through the centuries in multiple languages. Yet they overwhelmingly agree. Textual criticism is something that I have personally studied and am confident that if you study Erhman you will see that he stands on shaky ground.

I doubt that you have seriously studied this issue and probably aren't familiar with Koine Greek or textual criticism. Textual criticism allows us to compare all of the thousands of copies to one another and from that process we feel confident that we have what Matthew, Mark and Luke etc wrote.

You mentioned the vatican. The Catholic Church looks nothing like it did in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th centuries. I'm not Catholic but I think keeping everything in context is important.

Historical-Critical Scholar Doubts Authorship Of Paper He Wrote | The Babylon Bee

 

[SuperDave]

Historical-Critical Scholar Doubts Authorship Of Paper He Wrote | The Babylon Bee

that was funny

 

[Obsessed]

It's not hard to find the truth if you want to but you choose to believe in a fairy tale.

Until christians can prove god is real they shouldn't say **** about facts.

Why you goofy ass.


We can solve this problem pretty easy...

Prove he doesn't.... Then, we Christians, won't say **** about facts.

But I suggest you practice what you preach.... Until you can prove God doesn't exist, don't pretend you you know what the **** you are talking about....

- Lord, I apologize for that one there, and please be with all
the starving Pygmies down there in New Guinea! Amen!

 

[SuperDave]

Why you goofy ass.


We can solve this problem pretty easy...

Prove he doesn't.... Then, we Christians, won't say **** about facts.

But I suggest you practice what you preach.... Until you can prove God doesn't exist, don't pretend you you know what the **** you are talking about....

- Lord, I apologize for that one there, and please be with all
the starving Pygmies down there in New Guinea! Amen!

 

[Obsessed]

You still lose amigo....

You made asertions. You can't back them up with "facts".

It's ok... Thousands have tried to prove God didn't/doesn't exist. They failed as well.

No shame... Well, until it's time....

 

[SuperDave]

You still lose amigo....

You made asertions. You can't back them up with "facts".

It's ok... Thousands have tried to prove God didn't/doesn't exist. They failed as well.

No shame... Well, until it's time....

 

[VolinArizona]

really.. christians are the only ones who can do this.. if christianity never existed people wouldn't get any help?

He never ever said this. Ever.