Not impressed with Justin Fuente

Fuente, Memphis national Total offense ranks....

2012- 113th
2013- 117th
2014- 49th
2015- 18th

Fuente, Memphis national total defense ranks....

2012- 86th
2013- 39th
2014- 28th
2015- 77th

Just for good measure.....

Memphis W/L records 4 years prior to Fuente....

2008- 6-7
2009- 2-10
2010- 1-11
2011- 2-10
Totals: 11-38(.224)

Memphis W/L records 4 years under Fuente....

2012- 4-8
2013- 3-9
2014- 10-3
2015- 9-4
Totals: 26-24(.520)
Get your facts out of here. The failure of former Vanderbilt coaches is obviously more relevant to the discussion
 
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In his first year at Memphis, he went 4-8. Then his second year, he went 3-9. Imagine what would happen here if we went 3-9 against the weak opponents like in he had in that joke of a conference. In his third year he went 10-3 and last year he went 9-3. Granted, such a feat at Memphis is remarkable, I just can't get over the fact that for three of those years he had an awesome qb who ended up as a first-round draft pick. He was a three star guy and maybe I should give him credit for coaching him up, but I can't because Memphis plays in a joke of a conference. Also, he is 1 out of 5 against ranked opponents with his sole victory in his last year. I'm just not impressed.

I guess there is an argument for the work he did under Patterson, but last year TCU was 11-2 and the year before that they were 12-1. Patterson, in 16 years is 143-47, so I give him most of the credit for the success during the years that Fuentes was there.

Granted, we shouldn't underestimate anyone, but those thinking he is some awesome coach and we need to be worried about the Battle in Bristol, need to get a grip. We are going to do to them what we did in our last game against that Yankee team in purple.

:salute:

The guy followed the most inept coach in school history who follow the laziest coach in school history. I'm no fan of Memphis but watching what he did was remarkable. And the quarterback was a baseball player. If you'd seen him much in his first year you would understand why he had very few offers and Fuente took him at the last minute.

I grew up watching that program struggle, never really impressed. And for some very personal reasons I have some very strong dislike for tiger athletics. Fuente is a very good coach and will be successful at Tech.
 
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Fuente, Memphis national Total offense ranks....

2012- 113th
2013- 117th
2014- 49th
2015- 18th

Fuente, Memphis national total defense ranks....

2012- 86th
2013- 39th
2014- 28th
2015- 77th

Just for good measure.....

Memphis W/L records 4 years prior to Fuente....

2008- 6-7
2009- 2-10
2010- 1-11
2011- 2-10
Totals: 11-38(.224)

Memphis W/L records 4 years under Fuente....

2012- 4-8
2013- 3-9
2014- 10-3
2015- 9-4
Totals: 26-24(.520)


For good measure you should post the TCU stats while he was there. Dude can coach.
 
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Okay, I hate that I'm 21 hours late on this thread.

As a transfer student from UT to Memphis, Fuente gave us literally the best teams we've had since the start of WW2. Regardless of not being in a P5 conference, the Tigers are still in the heart of SEC country, and to discount his two incredible years by bringing up his first two is incredibly shortsighted, not to mention wholly asinine.

I was there, wearing my Tiger Blue as I watched Meglaquon, $wag Kelly, and the Nkimdeche idiots leave the Liberty Bowl in defeat. Fuente is absolutely legit.
 
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Fuente is not flashy by any, but he led freakin Memphis to ten wins. First time Mem had done that since the 30's or something ridiculous like that. The nine win season, the year before, was almost as impressive. That place has been a black hole of football for pretty much it's entire history. Fuente had them in the top twenty of all polls into October. And don't try to sell me the bad conference arguement. Fuente had the exact same crappy talent as most other teams in their conference and in some cases, had less talent. He had a low three-star qb, a walk on WR, and a bad defense and beat the #10 team in the country. How hard are you to please? There was a reason it was considered one of the best hires of the off-season. It was def a coup for him to keep that drunk foster, also. So the defense should stay salty. Once fuente gets some of his players in on offense he should have a solid team. I just don't think that the team that he will field on September 10th will be near the same talent level of Tennessee. Va tech's defense will keep this game closer on the scoreboard then it was on the field, but Tennessee should win by around two or three scores.

BTW, I would still take Butch over Fuente and def take Shoop over Foster. IMO, Shoop will be the biggest difference maker in turning last years close losses, into wins.
 
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I don't think Chip Kelly had a thing to do with Butch's success. What Butch has done here is remarkable. Kiffin with Eric Berry and other All-Stars couldn't even beat Virginia Tech. Kiffin was a terrible OC even while he was head coach at USC. He is being groomed by Saban now and that's why he has done a good job at Bama. Seriously after I studied Kiffins past I came to the conclusion that he should have never been offered the Raiders HC job nor being the HC here.
Wrong, Kiffin is a better than average OC, actually he's pretty darn good. Saban saw Kiffin up close and personal coaching an offense that had walkons on the Vol OL, Crompdaddy was a head case at QB he turned around, and were it not for Mountain Cody blocking a Vol FG Saban would have been beaten at home in their only gridiron confrontation. Kiffin has failed as a HC every where he has been in that role but he is an experienced highly successful OC respected by Saban. Don't get it twisted
 
Wrong, Kiffin is a better than average OC, actually he's pretty darn good. Saban saw Kiffin up close and personal coaching an offense that had walkons on the Vol OL, Crompdaddy was a head case at QB he turned around, and were it not for Mountain Cody blocking a Vol FG Saban would have been beaten at home in their only gridiron confrontation. Kiffin has failed as a HC every where he has been in that role but he is an experienced highly successful OC respected by Saban. Don't get it twisted
I don't recall one OC that Saban has had that wasn't good.
 
I personally was still supporting Dooley until the Missouri game in year three. Like you said, we love Vols football, what was the alternative? However, after that boondoggle I withdrew my support and got behind the notion that it was definitely time for a change. I was clearly well behind the curve.

I was equally guilty KB. My penance was NOT wearing my official gator hater t-shirt for one full season.
 
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He took over a black hole that was lacking in talent and coaching and booster support. He turned it around too. CBJ's 1st two years with CDD recruits were challenging and it would be no different at Memphis until sufficient talent was brought in and developed.
 
Epidemic? I don't think I said nor implied anything close to that. I was talking about those who did in the NCAA forum last year. And some of the EXACT same saying that about Fuente said the same about Franklin while at Vandy. That sir was and is my point.

So some and they? Anyone else?
 
Might be Herman's car but Applewhite is driving.

Yeah...the guy who coordinated the previous NCs and bettered the offense of every program he took over (including Rice immediately AFTER Applewhite) went completely hands off when pedophilloic Cole Trickle wanted to jump into his Maserati. :thumbsup: Reminds me of the Maurice Carthon coordinated Dallas Cowboy offenses that had that spare QB coach Sean Payton on the same staff. :).

Follow the genius dots (Herman is an actual Mensa member). Applewhite has the title OC/QB coach...he HELPS coach QBs.
 
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