'17' TN ATH Tee Higgins (Clemson commit)

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Crazy Ivan said:
Although we have Bama at home, that is still a game we can easily lose. Bama replaced a QB last season and still won the NC. Bama always has a blue-chip to replace a blue-chip leaving the program.

UGA is a big question mark with a new coaching staff coming in. We have to play UGA in Athens. We know the dawgs are loaded with talent. But like Bama, they are also replacing a QB. But also like Bama, they are still loaded with talent, and if Chubb comes back 100%, then along with Michel, they should again have one of the top running games in the SEC. A strong running game can take a load of pressure off of a new QB.



But still, it could be a rough year for the dawgs. But, and I emphasize BUT, if Smart is the real deal and the players are buying in to his philosophy, and if Chubb returns full strength, then UGA is a legitimate threat to win the East. I could see us losing to Bama and UGA and going 10-2, while UGA only loses 1 conference game and wins the East. While that would be an extremely disappointing scenario, I wouldn't consider the season a failure if we don't win the East. As has been said a million times already this offseason, if Team 120 is going to be as good as Volnation envisions it to be, we have to have a legitimate vertical passing game. That is the last missing piece of the offensive puzzle.
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I agree with all of that. The point I'm making is that those who think that 17 could be our year if we don't get it done this year......are fooling themselves.

Edit: Also UGA doesn't have to replace a QB. Eason may win the job but Lambert does come back.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
I agree with all of that. The point I'm making is that those who think that 17 could be our year if we don't get it done this year......are fooling themselves.

Edit: Also UGA doesn't have to replace a QB. Eason may win the job but Lambert does come back.
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My bad. I was thinking that Lambert only had one year of eligibility when he transferred.

Edit: especially after reading so much from UGA writers that Eason will start as a true freshman.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
My bad. I was thinking that Lambert only had one year of eligibility when he transferred.

Edit: especially after reading so much from UGA writers that Eason will start as a true freshman.
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I read an article the other day Eason is struggling taking 3rd string reps in practice...don't sound like he's gonna see the field much this year IMO
 
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FrostyDawg said:
I read an article the other day Eason is struggling taking 3rd string reps in practice...don't sound like he's gonna see the field much this year IMO
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UGA fans be like...
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sonofUT62 said:
I agree with all of that. The point I'm making is that those who think that 17 could be our year if we don't get it done this year......are fooling themselves.

Edit: Also UGA doesn't have to replace a QB. Eason may win the job but Lambert does come back.
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'17 could be a good year for us. I'm not sure what you're referring too. Sure we will lose a lot of talent, but our defensive depth is filthy.

John Kelly will be good, and hopefully we get Cam Akers. Pdub, JJ, J Smith, Malone, still at WR. Our Oline depth is great.

All we will need is a solid QB, which QD/SJ/JG are all capable. And our RB depth will be thin but that's all. 2 of those QB will have been in the system for 3 years and both were highly recruited by top 15 programs.

RB will be the biggest question mark. And our defense alone will keep us in games.
 
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I remember when CBJ had the first great class, everyone was pointing to 2017 being the year we would be back and how important that year would be. So, it appears we are ahead of schedule and part of that is how well some have developed including Maybin, Cam, and AK and the fact those three came back.
 
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IndianaVolunteer said:
'17 could be a good year for us. I'm not sure what you're referring too. Sure we will lose a lot of talent, but our defensive depth is filthy.

John Kelly will be good, and hopefully we get Cam Akers. Pdub, JJ, J Smith, Malone, still at WR. Our Oline depth is great.

All we will need is a solid QB, which QD/SJ/JG are all capable. And our RB depth will be thin but that's all. 2 of those QB will have been in the system for 3 years and both were highly recruited by top 15 programs.

RB will be the biggest question mark. And our defense alone will keep us in games.
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We will lose our three best defensive players if DB leaves early. And we will have to replace a senior QB. It cracks me up that this board always gets excited about another team replacing a QB but then just thinks we will be just fine. All of our guys are very capable, but that doesn't mean that we won't have falloff from Dobbs. Plus a substantially more difficult schedule in 2017.
 
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RockyTopInBham said:
Except in this case, both Barton Simmons and Ryan Bartow have both CB'ed Higgins to Clemson in the past couple months. And both are usually "in the know" and quite accurate in their CB's. All that to say - it's a long way to NSD, and much can change. I just didn't agree with your point... :)
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Barton Simmons has no clue. He flips his CB picks constantly. He has missed on just about every single big-time player Tennessee has landed over the last 3 years. Only when he realizes at the last minute that Tennessee is actually going to land a guy he'll try and save face by changing his CB at the last second. Did it Phillips, Kongbo, Tuttle, Barnett....the list goes on and on.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
We will lose our three best defensive players if DB leaves early. And we will have to replace a senior QB. It cracks me up that this board always gets excited about another team replacing a QB but then just thinks we will be just fine. All of our guys are very capable, but that doesn't mean that we won't have falloff from Dobbs. Plus a substantially more difficult schedule in 2017.
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What cracks me up is that some of you think we're still in the Dooley era and can't replace lost talent. Will DB be replaceable? Probably not, but we still have KMac, Tuttle, DK Jr, Gaulden, Sapp, Smith, Etc.

We're not back until we prove it on the field, but we have the most talented ROSTER in about a decade with extraordinary depth on defense.
 
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IndianaVolunteer said:
What cracks me up is that some of you think we're still in the Dooley era and can't replace lost talent. Will DB be replaceable? Probably not, but we still have KMac, Tuttle, DK Jr, Gaulden, Sapp, Smith, Etc.

We're not back until we prove it on the field, but we have the most talented ROSTER in about a decade with extraordinary depth on defense.
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So if we can't win the East in 2016, but in 2017 the D is the same, the offense takes a step back and the schedule gets harder, then how are our chances just as good in 2017? Maybe the team that's left turns out to be better but I doubt it. If we go 8-4 in 2016 with no trip to Atlanta, we sure won't have the preseason hype we've got right now.
 
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RockyTopInBham said:
Except in this case, both Barton Simmons and Ryan Bartow have both CB'ed Higgins to Clemson in the past couple months. And both are usually "in the know" and quite accurate in their CB's. All that to say - it's a long way to NSD, and much can change. I just didn't agree with your point... :)
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My comment was not specific to Higgins.
 
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LynxVol said:
My comment was not specific to Higgins.
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It's all good, and I agree that most people don't pay attention; that's why I started it with "except in this case" :eek:k:

Montrell Hardy said:
Barton Simmons has no clue. He flips his CB picks constantly. He has missed on just about every single big-time player Tennessee has landed over the last 3 years. Only when he realizes at the last minute that Tennessee is actually going to land a guy he'll try and save face by changing his CB at the last second. Did it Phillips, Kongbo, Tuttle, Barnett....the list goes on and on.
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Agreed that Barton flips alot, but the original comment was that people don't pay attention to who's making these predictions, and I was just pointing out that I'm paying attention to now 3 of the top 6 CB predictors all saying Tee is projected to commit to Clemson, now including Demetric Warren today.

My whole point was to say I watch the CB's fairly closely, and there's a lot of smoke in Higgin's case that points to Clemson. And it could all be moot point if we have the season that we're hoping for, which would probably lead to a lot of elite talent wanting to end up in Knoxville, hopefully including Higgins.
 
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BondJamesBond said:
I can. If they have an 8 win season this year, they still have the tallent already on campus to have a terrific 2017 season. Will it affect recruiting? Probably, but it wont be the end of the program and shouldn't be the end of CBJs career. I want them to have a great year, but the earth doesn't stop turning if they don't. The program is getting back where it should be and one season does not make or destroy a program,
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8 wins would be awful, and even 9 would be disappointing. We will have tons of experience and talent leaving 2017. THIS is the year for CBJ.
 
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scvolfan7 said:
Crystal ball for CU from demetric warren and he is usually reliable
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:blink: not sure if serious...he's the craziest of them all, normally around 50%, currently sitting at 54%. I could do better, of course, 54% is better than a couple insiders on here. :angel:
 
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secking said:
:blink: not sure if serious...he's the craziest of them all, normally around 50%, currently sitting at 54%. I could do better, of course, 54% is better than a couple insiders on here. :angel:
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It's probably a confirmation bias I've developed. It seems like he usually gets it right from what I remember
 
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sonofUT62 said:
So if we can't win the East in 2016, but in 2017 the D is the same, the offense takes a step back and the schedule gets harder, then how are our chances just as good in 2017? Maybe the team that's left turns out to be better but I doubt it. If we go 8-4 in 2016 with no trip to Atlanta, we sure won't have the preseason hype we've got right now.
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We did used to replace and relatively easily when our rosters were loaded.
 
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Catbone said:
8 wins would be awful, and even 9 would be disappointing. We will have tons of experience and talent leaving 2017. THIS is the year for CBJ.
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Kind of getting off topic here, but I think we should still be pretty stacked in 2017. Wiseman is the only O-lineman we're likely to lose (unless you count Blair), and he should be replaced by J. Jones or Boulware. That gives us an O-line that is talented, experienced, and deep. We should have more experience and depth at WR with most (if not all) of our key players returning for 2017. We have to replace Dobbs, but I really like the candidates there. At RB, I think Kelly and Fils Aime can be an effective combo (maybe not Hurd and Kamara effective, but still solid), and we probably have one of the most appealing situations in the country for top-end RB prospects this year, so I expect some serious talent to be added to that position in this upcoming class. If Wolf were to go early, TE would be a question mark IMO, but even there we have some intriguing pieces.

On defense, we do lose several key players (Sutton, Reeves-Maybin, O'Brien, Vereen, probably Barnett, maybe Martin), but we have recruited well enough that I'm hoping we'll be able to just reload. Even with everything we lose at DE, we still have enviable talent and depth with Phillips, Kongbo, Taylor, Smith, and Mixon. At DT, the thought of Tuttle and McKenzie as experienced upperclassmen is downright scary. Even if we do lose some of the dynamic element JRM brings to the defense, we've signed enough quality LBs the last couple of years that surely someone will be able to step into his spot and play competently. And in the secondary we have Byrd and Osborne to replace Sutton and Martin (if he goes early). That's elite talent replacing elite talent.

Long story short, the rebuild is over. It's time to just reload.
 
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