An early look at Tennessee’s 2017 NFL prospects

[KBVol]

Like I said keep falling for the mythology.

The RB position is just lacking elite talents right now in the NFL. There simply aren't many transcendent guys as there were 10-15 years ago.

Stuff like this happens in cycles. Just look at the NBA. There are no star centers in the NBA right now. And that's not because the center position is devalued. There just aren't many Shaquille O'Neal or Tim Duncan's coming into the league recently.

Same thing happening with RBs in the NFL. Since Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch came into the NFL in 2007, there haven't been many transcendent talents coming into the league at the RB position.

That all changes in 2017 and 2018. Those years will bring a renaissance of RBs into the NFL.

You're right..... D4H's opinion trumps the decisions and actions of NFL scouts, GMs and coaches.

And even if, for once, you're actually right about 3 or so running backs going in the first rd next year, thereby breaking a pretty strong trend over the last several years, I don't believe any of them with be named Hurd, which was the original argument/point.......rather, you'll see Cook, Fournette, Chubb or Gallman.

 

[BearCat204]

You're right..... D4H's opinion trumps the decisions and actions of NFL scouts, GMs and coaches.

And even if, for once, you're actually right about 3 or so running backs going in the first rd next year, thereby breaking a pretty strong trend over the last several years, I don't believe any of them with be named Hurd, which was the original argument/point.......rather, you'll see Cook, Fournette, Chubb or Gallman.

The clown is a legend in his own mind.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You're right..... D4H's opinion trumps the decisions and actions of NFL scouts, GMs and coaches.

And even if, for once, you're actually right about 3 or so running backs going in the first rd next year, thereby breaking a pretty strong trend over the last several years, I don't believe any of them with be named Hurd, which was the original argument/point.......rather, you'll see Cook, Fournette, Chubb or Gallman.

You're either dumber than I thought or one of these nuetered vols fans that still think we have inferior players.

Gallman can't hold Hurd's jockstrap let alone ever get drafted before him.

You're really giving me a lot of good bumpable material. Keep making dumb ass comments, I'm lovin it.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Like I said keep falling for the mythology.

The RB position is just lacking elite talents right now in the NFL. There simply aren't many transcendent guys as there were 10-15 years ago.

Stuff like this happens in cycles. Just look at the NBA. There are no star centers in the NBA right now. And that's not because the center position is devalued. There just aren't many Shaquille O'Neal or Tim Duncan's coming into the league recently.

Same thing happening with RBs in the NFL. Since Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch came into the NFL in 2007, there haven't been many transcendent talents coming into the league at the RB position.

That all changes in 2017 and 2018. Those years will bring a renaissance of RBs into the NFL.

Eh that's a bit of a false narrative, I think.

Fact is, recent rule changes have significantly shifted things in the favor of the pasig game in the NFL and defenders have become so big and athletic that RBs just don't have the shelf life they used to.

A short shelf life means the position itself has become devalued. Sure, there could be a year where 3-4 great RBs come out, are drafted high, and have good/great careers. But statistically speaking, RB is one of the most likely positions to get inured and end up spending time on the sidelines and one of the positions where teams can usually count on finding decently productive players in the middle rounds for significantly less money.

The number of RBs taken in the first round in 2017 will likely have much more to do with the number of high caliber prospects at more valuable positions than it does with the RBs themselves.

 

[KBVol]

You're either dumber than I thought or one of these nuetered vols fans that still think we have inferior players.

Gallman can't hold Hurd's jockstrap let alone ever get drafted before him.

You're really giving me a lot of good bumpable material. Keep making dumb ass comments, I'm lovin it.

Gallman is a 6'1, 215 lb quick, explosive and very fast RB with very good passing catching skills as well. He was more much productive than Hurd last year and he's projected to be picked earlier in the 2017 draft right now.

Please do, save every one of my posts you disagree with. Will be fun knowing you'll never have need of pulling them back out for a "I told you so". Trust me, I'm saving a whole bunch of your BS to throw back in your face when the time comes.....gonna have to buy my GBs for my iPhone....I'm running out of space on my iPhone with all the stupid ish you constantly spew.

 

[barnolde]

hope so but Barnett and Sutton are more likely 1st round

 

[GoVols#18]

I think McCaffrey will beat out Fournette for the Heisman and be the first RB taken in the draft. Hurd is likely 4th I think and in late 2nd round.

 

[KBVol]

I think McCaffrey will beat out Fournette for the Heisman and be the first RB taken in the draft. Hurd is likely 4th I think and in late 2nd round.

I think Deshaun Watson wins it.

 

[hndog609]

Leonard Fournette had the heisman wrapped up till he played Alabama in early November. Henry outplayed him and he was the favorite from then on.

When are you gonna realize the heisman is a hype award. If Dobbs beats Alabama and plays well, the heisman will be his to lose as long as we win the rest of our games.

Stats are only part of the equation. Narrative is the other. A Tennessee football renaissance. A rocket scientist QB. Playing in the SEC. Beating the mighty Alabama. That's the type of sh#t that wins you the heisman.

There is some truth to the boldened but your reach is exceeding your grasp contextually. For any player (UT or otherwise) to be in the Heisman mix they are still going to have to be statistically elite. The narrative you speak of can go a long way in differentiating players with similar stat lines but you still have to be eating at the big table to even get to that point. If Hurd can't put 1600 yards behind him (by voting time) there's essentially zero chance he's even in the mix, much less meriting serious consideration. His production is going to have to go WAY up for that to happen. Same for Dobbs.

 

[VonVol]

Personally I don't see them being first rounders either, but saying zero chance isn't accurate IMO. Hurd's a well rounded RB, if he blows up the combine he could easily sneak into the tail end of the first round.

As for Dobbs, if he has a good 2016 anything can happen. Geno Smith managed to get drafted in the first round too, you know.

I don't disagree with your sentiment. But Geno was not drafted in the first round.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I think McCaffrey will beat out Fournette for the Heisman and be the first RB taken in the draft. Hurd is likely 4th I think and in late 2nd round.

You guys must not follow the NFL draft closely if you think McCaffrey has any chance to go before Fournette or even someone like Elijah Hood.

The kid is not an every down NFL running back. He'll be lucky to get drafted in the 2nd round as a complimentary third down back.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Gallman is a 6'1, 215 lb quick, explosive and very fast RB with very good passing catching skills as well. He was more much productive than Hurd last year and he's projected to be picked earlier in the 2017 draft right now.

Please do, save every one of my posts you disagree with. Will be fun knowing you'll never have need of pulling them back out for a "I told you so". Trust me, I'm saving a whole bunch of your BS to throw back in your face when the time comes.....gonna have to buy my GBs for my iPhone....I'm running out of space on my iPhone with all the stupid ish you constantly spew.

Stuff like this proves to me you know nothing about evaluating talent.

Gallman runs high, has a skinny lower body, and is built more like a reciever. He's at best a 3rd-4th round prospect. Maybe even later if more elite guys come out for the 2017 draft.

The elite guys for 2017 are:

1. Leonard Fournette - early 1st round pick
2. Dalvin Cook - mid 1st round pick
3. Nick Chubb - mid 1st round pick (if healthy)
4. Jalen Hurd - mid to late 1st round pick
5. Royce Freeman - late 1st to early 2nd round pick
6. Elijah Hood - late 1st to early 2nd round pick

These are 3 down backs with NFL speed and NFL builds.

 

[KBVol]

Leonard Fournette had the heisman wrapped up till he played Alabama in early November. Henry outplayed him and he was the favorite from then on.

When are you gonna realize the heisman is a hype award. If Dobbs beats Alabama and plays well, the heisman will be his to lose as long as we win the rest of our games.

Stats are only part of the equation. Narrative is the other. A Tennessee football renaissance. A rocket scientist QB. Playing in the SEC. Beating the mighty Alabama. That's the type of sh#t that wins you the heisman.

He can have all that going for him and more. But if rattles off a 13-31 performance vs Va Tech, throws for 83 yards in a loss to Florida and 89 yards vs a bad Missouri team again, it'll be all for naught. They're looking for big moments AND sustained excellence. Like you said, Fournette was the odds on favorite until the Bama game....couldn't sustain the excellence, didn't win the trophy, despite excellence in pretty much every other game he played.

Plus, you're conveniently forgetting the 15 other players out there who go into the season with much greater odds of winning the award....guys like Deshaun Watson who will put up much better numbers and who will play in similarly hyped big games (think FSU). I know that in your warped, demented world, the Heisman is Josh's to lose....not much could be further from the truth.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

He can have all that going for him and more. But if rattles off a 13-31 performance vs Va Tech, throws for 83 yards in a loss to Florida and 89 yards vs a bad Missouri team again, it'll be all for naught. They're looking for big moments AND sustained excellence. Like you said, Fournette was the odds on favorite until the Bama game....couldn't sustain the excellence, didn't win the trophy, despite excellence in pretty much every other game he played.

Plus, you're conveniently forgetting the 15 other players out there who go into the season with much greater odds of winning the award....guys like Deshaun Watson who will put up much better numbers and who will play in similarly hyped big games (think FSU). I know that in your warped, demented world, the Heisman is Josh's to lose....not much could be further from the truth.

Not really. I just know the obvious favorite is very unlikely to win the award.

Going into last year Henry was in a similar position to Dobbs. He was named as a possible heisman contender but was really on no ones short list as a favorite. Everyone had Ezekiel Elliott, Fournette, Chubb, or one of the Ohio State QBs as the leading favorites. McCaffrey in a sense came outta nowhere.

Usually the heisman winner is a relative surprise. Since Cam Newton won it in 2010, the only guy who was among the handful of favorites to win the award was Mariota. Manziel, RG3, and Winston were huge surprises.

Its more likely Dobbs or Hurd win the heisman than Watson or Fournette if recent history is any guide.

 

[avolation]

D4H at a job interview for a NFL scouting job...

 

[Power T-Rev]

D4H at a job interview for a NFL scouting job...

Or just 1 word: INSUFFERABLE

 

[KBVol]

Stuff like this proves to me you know nothing about evaluating talent.

Gallman runs high, has a skinny lower body, and is built more like a reciever. He's at best a 3rd-4th round prospect. Maybe even later if more elite guys come out for the 2017 draft.

The elite guys for 2017 are:

1. Leonard Fournette - early 1st round pick
2. Dalvin Cook - mid 1st round pick
3. Nick Chubb - mid 1st round pick (if healthy)
4. Jalen Hurd - mid to late 1st round pick
5. Royce Freeman - late 1st to early 2nd round pick
6. Elijah Hood - late 1st to early 2nd round pick

These are 3 down backs with NFL speed and NFL builds.

Those guys are elite....except for Hurd. Walterfootball.com has it...

image: http://walterfootball.com/college/LSU_logo.gif

1. Leonard Fournette*, RB, LSU
Height: 6-1. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
Projected Round (2017): Top-10 Pick.
2/20/16: Fournette came to LSU with a huge amount of hype, including comparisons to Adrian Peterson. As a sophomore, Fournette showed why the hype was justified as he was terrific. Fournette was in the running as the best player in the country as he carried LSU's team. He averaged 6.5 yards per carry for 1,953 yards with 22 touchdowns in 2015, plus caught 19 passes for 253 yards with a touchdown. Fournette had a number of long gains called back as well.

There is no doubt that Fournette is a special player. He is a powerful downhill runner who can run over tacklers but also has a burst to break off long runs and run away from them. Fournette also has moves in the open field with elusiveness to avoid tacklers. He is a natural athlete and showed impressive receiving skills as a sophomore. Fournette is a threat to score every time he touches the ball.

Fournette had a strong freshman season in 2014, averaging 5.5 yards per carry on 187 rushes for 1,034 yards and 10 touchdowns.


2. Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 203.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
Projected Round (2017): 1.
2/20/16: The Seminoles had a drop-off after losing Jameis Winston and a lot of other talented players to the NFL, but Cook was so good on his own, he carried Florida State to a 10-win 2015 season. On the year, Cook averaged 7.4 yards per carry for 1,691 yards with 19 touchdowns. He had 24 receptions for 244 yards and a score as well. Cook has a nice mix of power and speed. He is a good receiver and looks like a future three-down starter in the NFL.


3. Christian McCaffrey*, RB, Stanford
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2017): 1-2.
2/20/16: In my opinion, McCaffrey should have won the Heisman Trophy because he carried Stanford in 2015. He was a home-run hitter and a threat to rip off a huge gain every time he touched the ball. McCaffrey has a tremendous burst to break into the open field. He also has great vision and cutting ability. In 2015, McCaffrey averaged six yards per carry for 2,019 yards with eight touchdowns. As a receiver, he had 45 catches for 645 yards and five scores. McCaffrey looks undersized, but he still should be an early rounder.

4. Nick Chubb*, RB, Georgia
Height: 5-10. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round (2017): 1-2.
2/20/16: Prior to his season-ending knee injury in 2015, Chubb had picked up where he left off as a freshman. The sophomore averaged 8.1 yards per carry for 747 yards and seven touchdowns in his shortened 2015 season. He also made four catches for 32 yards and a score. In 2014 while splitting time with Todd Gurley, Chubb averaged 7.1 yards per carry for 1,547 yards with 14 touchdowns. He caught 18 receptions for 213 yards and two scores as well.

Chubb is akin to a human bowling ball, rolling over tacklers and and being a physical force in the SEC. He is a powerful runner who also has the quickness to rip off yards in chunks. Chubb is expected to ready for the start of the 2016 regular season.

5. Wayne Gallman*, RB, Clemson
Height: 6-1. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.
2/20/16: Gallman was the workhorse of the Clemson offense in 2015, averaging 5.4 yards per carry for 1,527 yards with 13 touchdowns. He also caught 21 passes for 213 yards with a score. Gallman is a quick runner who could stand to add some weight for the next level.


6. Samaje Perine*, RB, Oklahoma
Height: 5-11. Weight: 237.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.



7. Sony Michel*, RB, Georgia
Height: 5-11. Weight: 212.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.


8. Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
Height: 5-11. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.


9. Jalen Hurd*, RB, Tennessee
Height: 6-4. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
Projected Round (2017): 2-4.


10. Elijah Hood*, RB, North Carolina
Height: 6-0. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2016): 3-4.



So, while your dumb *** says "Gallman can't carry Hurd's jockstrap", these guys who get paid to evaluate football talent for a living have Gallman 5 spots ahead of Jalen.

 

[Biopsyman]

Hurd will be a hammer for a cold weather team.. Book it

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Those guys are elite....except for Hurd. Walterfootball.com has it...

image: http://walterfootball.com/college/LSU_logo.gif

1. Leonard Fournette*, RB, LSU
Height: 6-1. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
Projected Round (2017): Top-10 Pick.
2/20/16: Fournette came to LSU with a huge amount of hype, including comparisons to Adrian Peterson. As a sophomore, Fournette showed why the hype was justified as he was terrific. Fournette was in the running as the best player in the country as he carried LSU's team. He averaged 6.5 yards per carry for 1,953 yards with 22 touchdowns in 2015, plus caught 19 passes for 253 yards with a touchdown. Fournette had a number of long gains called back as well.

There is no doubt that Fournette is a special player. He is a powerful downhill runner who can run over tacklers but also has a burst to break off long runs and run away from them. Fournette also has moves in the open field with elusiveness to avoid tacklers. He is a natural athlete and showed impressive receiving skills as a sophomore. Fournette is a threat to score every time he touches the ball.

Fournette had a strong freshman season in 2014, averaging 5.5 yards per carry on 187 rushes for 1,034 yards and 10 touchdowns.


2. Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 203.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
Projected Round (2017): 1.
2/20/16: The Seminoles had a drop-off after losing Jameis Winston and a lot of other talented players to the NFL, but Cook was so good on his own, he carried Florida State to a 10-win 2015 season. On the year, Cook averaged 7.4 yards per carry for 1,691 yards with 19 touchdowns. He had 24 receptions for 244 yards and a score as well. Cook has a nice mix of power and speed. He is a good receiver and looks like a future three-down starter in the NFL.


3. Christian McCaffrey*, RB, Stanford
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2017): 1-2.
2/20/16: In my opinion, McCaffrey should have won the Heisman Trophy because he carried Stanford in 2015. He was a home-run hitter and a threat to rip off a huge gain every time he touched the ball. McCaffrey has a tremendous burst to break into the open field. He also has great vision and cutting ability. In 2015, McCaffrey averaged six yards per carry for 2,019 yards with eight touchdowns. As a receiver, he had 45 catches for 645 yards and five scores. McCaffrey looks undersized, but he still should be an early rounder.

4. Nick Chubb*, RB, Georgia
Height: 5-10. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round (2017): 1-2.
2/20/16: Prior to his season-ending knee injury in 2015, Chubb had picked up where he left off as a freshman. The sophomore averaged 8.1 yards per carry for 747 yards and seven touchdowns in his shortened 2015 season. He also made four catches for 32 yards and a score. In 2014 while splitting time with Todd Gurley, Chubb averaged 7.1 yards per carry for 1,547 yards with 14 touchdowns. He caught 18 receptions for 213 yards and two scores as well.

Chubb is akin to a human bowling ball, rolling over tacklers and and being a physical force in the SEC. He is a powerful runner who also has the quickness to rip off yards in chunks. Chubb is expected to ready for the start of the 2016 regular season.

5. Wayne Gallman*, RB, Clemson
Height: 6-1. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.
2/20/16: Gallman was the workhorse of the Clemson offense in 2015, averaging 5.4 yards per carry for 1,527 yards with 13 touchdowns. He also caught 21 passes for 213 yards with a score. Gallman is a quick runner who could stand to add some weight for the next level.


6. Samaje Perine*, RB, Oklahoma
Height: 5-11. Weight: 237.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.



7. Sony Michel*, RB, Georgia
Height: 5-11. Weight: 212.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.


8. Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
Height: 5-11. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.


9. Jalen Hurd*, RB, Tennessee
Height: 6-4. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
Projected Round (2017): 2-4.


10. Elijah Hood*, RB, North Carolina
Height: 6-0. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2016): 3-4.



So, while your dumb *** says "Gallman can't carry Hurd's jockstrap", these guys who get paid to evaluate football talent for a living have Gallman 5 spots ahead of Jalen.

Walter Football will change those rankings up a lot between now and the 2017 draft to more accurately reflect what they're hearing from other draftnicks and scouts about players' draft stock.


I'm not really sure why you're using them as a trump card in your argument. They're not even the best at what they do.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Those guys are elite....except for Hurd. Walterfootball.com has it...

image: http://walterfootball.com/college/LSU_logo.gif

1. Leonard Fournette*, RB, LSU
Height: 6-1. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
Projected Round (2017): Top-10 Pick.
2/20/16: Fournette came to LSU with a huge amount of hype, including comparisons to Adrian Peterson. As a sophomore, Fournette showed why the hype was justified as he was terrific. Fournette was in the running as the best player in the country as he carried LSU's team. He averaged 6.5 yards per carry for 1,953 yards with 22 touchdowns in 2015, plus caught 19 passes for 253 yards with a touchdown. Fournette had a number of long gains called back as well.

There is no doubt that Fournette is a special player. He is a powerful downhill runner who can run over tacklers but also has a burst to break off long runs and run away from them. Fournette also has moves in the open field with elusiveness to avoid tacklers. He is a natural athlete and showed impressive receiving skills as a sophomore. Fournette is a threat to score every time he touches the ball.

Fournette had a strong freshman season in 2014, averaging 5.5 yards per carry on 187 rushes for 1,034 yards and 10 touchdowns.


2. Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 203.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
Projected Round (2017): 1.
2/20/16: The Seminoles had a drop-off after losing Jameis Winston and a lot of other talented players to the NFL, but Cook was so good on his own, he carried Florida State to a 10-win 2015 season. On the year, Cook averaged 7.4 yards per carry for 1,691 yards with 19 touchdowns. He had 24 receptions for 244 yards and a score as well. Cook has a nice mix of power and speed. He is a good receiver and looks like a future three-down starter in the NFL.


3. Christian McCaffrey*, RB, Stanford
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2017): 1-2.
2/20/16: In my opinion, McCaffrey should have won the Heisman Trophy because he carried Stanford in 2015. He was a home-run hitter and a threat to rip off a huge gain every time he touched the ball. McCaffrey has a tremendous burst to break into the open field. He also has great vision and cutting ability. In 2015, McCaffrey averaged six yards per carry for 2,019 yards with eight touchdowns. As a receiver, he had 45 catches for 645 yards and five scores. McCaffrey looks undersized, but he still should be an early rounder.

4. Nick Chubb*, RB, Georgia
Height: 5-10. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round (2017): 1-2.
2/20/16: Prior to his season-ending knee injury in 2015, Chubb had picked up where he left off as a freshman. The sophomore averaged 8.1 yards per carry for 747 yards and seven touchdowns in his shortened 2015 season. He also made four catches for 32 yards and a score. In 2014 while splitting time with Todd Gurley, Chubb averaged 7.1 yards per carry for 1,547 yards with 14 touchdowns. He caught 18 receptions for 213 yards and two scores as well.

Chubb is akin to a human bowling ball, rolling over tacklers and and being a physical force in the SEC. He is a powerful runner who also has the quickness to rip off yards in chunks. Chubb is expected to ready for the start of the 2016 regular season.

5. Wayne Gallman*, RB, Clemson
Height: 6-1. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.
2/20/16: Gallman was the workhorse of the Clemson offense in 2015, averaging 5.4 yards per carry for 1,527 yards with 13 touchdowns. He also caught 21 passes for 213 yards with a score. Gallman is a quick runner who could stand to add some weight for the next level.


6. Samaje Perine*, RB, Oklahoma
Height: 5-11. Weight: 237.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.



7. Sony Michel*, RB, Georgia
Height: 5-11. Weight: 212.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.


8. Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
Height: 5-11. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.


9. Jalen Hurd*, RB, Tennessee
Height: 6-4. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
Projected Round (2017): 2-4.


10. Elijah Hood*, RB, North Carolina
Height: 6-0. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2016): 3-4.



So, while your dumb *** says "Gallman can't carry Hurd's jockstrap", these guys who get paid to evaluate football talent for a living have Gallman 5 spots ahead of Jalen.

At this time last year Walterfootball.com had Marquez North, Cardale Jones, and Christian Hackenberg as a 1st round pick and didn't have Carson Wentz and Paxton Lynch anywhere near the 1st round.

These guys know very little. I'd suggest you do your own analysis than depend on flawed authority.


That list of top RBs is terrible. LOL @ Hurd and Hood being behind the likes of McCaffrey and Michel. That's hilarious.

 

[VonVol]

I just checked 5 different mock NFL drafts for 2017. The first 5 that Google brings up. Not sure exactly how credible each one is, but I'm fairly certain they watch almost as much football as D4H.

Three of the five have Reeves Maybin and McCaffrey going in the first round.

Zero have Dobbs or Hurd going in the first round.

I'm not saying neither one does go first round. I hope they do. But seemingly people who do this sort of a thing for a living don't quite see it.

Then I remember that the guy saying they will go in the first round is the same one who said Maggitt going down last year wouldn't be an issue since Austin Smith would be better anyways. That worked out really well.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I just checked 5 different mock NFL drafts for 2017. The first 5 that Google brings up. Not sure exactly how credible each one is, but I'm fairly certain they watch almost as much football as D4H.

Three of the five have Reeves Maybin and McCaffrey going in the first round.

Zero have Dobbs or Hurd going in the first round.

I'm not saying neither one does go first round. I hope they do. But seemingly people who do this sort of a thing for a living don't quite see it.

Then I remember that the guy saying they will go in the first round is the same one who said Maggitt going down last year wouldn't be an issue since Austin Smith would be better anyways. That worked out really well.

Go back and look up mock drafts for the 2016 draft at this time last year. Usually 30-50% of guys in those 1st round mock drafts are no longer first rounders.

Like I said earlier, guys like Marquez North and Duke Williams were projected as 1st rounders at this time last year. Guys like Cardale Jones and Christian Hackenberg were also first rounders. Now all 4 of these guys will be lucky to be drafted before the 3rd or 4th round.

I'm very confident JRM or McCaffrey will not be 1st round picks. Both lack the ideal measureables for their positions. McCaffrey is not an every down back and JRM is undersized.

 

[dcm3w]

1st round: Dobbs, Hurd, Sutton, and Barnett

2nd round: Kamara, Malone

3rd round: JRM


Ethan Wolf and Justin Martin could also go in the 1st-2nd round if they decide to come out.

Dobbs will not be a 1st rounder. He's no Teddy Bridgewater.

 

[VonVol]

Go back and look up mock drafts for the 2016 draft at this time last year. Usually 30-50% of guys in those 1st round mock drafts are no longer first rounders.

Like I said earlier, guys like Marquez North and Duke Williams were projected as 1st rounders at this time last year. Guys like Cardale Jones and Christian Hackenberg were also first rounders. Now all 4 of these guys will be lucky to be drafted before the 3rd or 4th round.

I'm very confident JRM or McCaffrey will not be 1st round picks. Both lack the ideal measureables for their positions. McCaffrey is not an every down back and JRM is undersized.

I don't disagree with early mock drafts being wrong a good bit. Some players pop up and show out. Some fall off due to injury or just poor play. That happens. But 5 different sources and none seem to think Dobbs or Hurd will be there. And as with your Maggitt - Austin Smith prediction, I'm not sure you have the rep to make me believe you more than them.

 

[dcm3w]

No. I follow the draft closely. I've actually been more of a NFL can most of my life than college football fan.

I never heard the names Wentz and Lynch before this year. RG3 and Tannehill were likewise not major prospects before the 2011 season.

The idea of going from fringe draft prospect to high first rounder in a single year is not unheard of.

It literally happens EVERY year.

RG3 was a Heisman winner so he didn't come out of no where. Lynch is what, 6'7 and has a big arm. Wentz dominated division II.

Unless, Dobbs becomes accurate and consistent then MAYBE he'll go 1st round. I wouldn't draft him in the 1st.