An early look at Tennessee’s 2017 NFL prospects

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#76
Iam4utalways said:
Nothing wrong with that. For now my Dr.s haven't even brought up mental health, I take that as a no news is good news kind of a deal.
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I can't tell if you're pulling a Tommy Smothers on me. If you are, that's really funny.



PS: I understand if he's Tommy that makes me a dick.

punny...
 
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MustafaRasta said:
I can't tell if you're pulling a Tommy Smothers on me. If you are, that's really funny.



PS: I understand if he's Tommy that makes me a dick.

punny...
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Nice call. I do think Dobbs could get hot and remove all limits to what can happen.

I'm also glad that with just a little improvement he can take us to a NC.

I say if you you are gonna go big, go big pumping the sunshine rather than reason or logic. Most live in the middle it take a risk and enjoy the ride.

I think we all know Dobbs is an asset to UT as a player and a person. Nothing you have said makes me think anything other than that.

Even last year, a throw here and there could have changed the season, both for better and for worse.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
When the Vols improve and he is on a NC team, his stock will rise due to being a critical part if the success I expect us to achieve.

Your right nothing of that magnitude is easy.

Jump higher Vols.
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I agree his stock will rise. Hurd is a very good RB. But, and I am no expert by any stretch, I just don't see that top end speed that Fournett and Chubb have. I thought Henry was faster than Hurd.

IMO, Hurd would have to have a monster season to go in the first round. I think somewhere around 1700+ yards and 16+ TDs. Now he has the talent to do that but with Kamara and Dobbs getting carries, I just don't see a chance for that type of production.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I agree his stock will rise. Hurd is a very good RB. But, and I am no expert by any stretch, I just don't see that top end speed that Fournett and Chubb have. I thought Henry was faster than Hurd.

IMO, Hurd would have to have a monster season to go in the first round. I think somewhere around 1700+ yards and 16+ TDs. Now he has the talent to do that but with Kamara and Dobbs getting carries, I just don't see a chance for that type of production.
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I think staying healthy and having a good combine will be bigger for Hurd than numbers this year. He needs to show that he can withstand the beating a back his size will take and that he's athletic enough to continue producing at the next level.

I think he could have another season with similar rushing numbers to last year and work himself into the first round if he tests really well at the combine.

He could put up 1700 yards and it won't mean much if he runs a 4.6 IMO. If he can can run a 4.5 or below, it wouldn't surprise me to see a team fall in love with him since he has such a well rounded skill set.
 
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jonnon111 said:
Let's hope most of these juniors stay for their senior season. Most of all Hurd and Barnett.
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I think that will be a long shot unless they have some sort of set back.

Personally, I hope they ball out to such an extent in 2016 that they can't NOT go pro and get paid. Having some underclassmen drafted early should help us keep the recruiting train rolling.
 
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MustafaRasta said:
by the by:

Tannehill threw for 3744 yards and 29 touchdowns his senior year.

RG3 threw for 4293 yards and 37 TD's.

Dobbs best full season stats - 2291 and 15 touch downs.

so yea if he adds 1500 yards this year minmum and another 20 touchdowns I guess he will go first round.

You guys should hold your breath.


PS: I like Dobbs great college QB, great leader, and a greta represenetive for the university.
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I've got 2016 Dobbs down for:

3200 yards passing
800 yards rushing
40 total TDs

Should be good enough for an invitation to NYC for the heisman trophy presentation and a 1st round grade.
 
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Power T-Rev said:
For some reason, a few posters think that if we don't agree that Dobbs is a future first round pick, we must not like the guy. I love me some Josh Dobbs and the guy is one of the best advocates for the program and the university, but I just don't see him as a first round pick.
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That's cause you guys aren't as good as I am in evaluating NFL talent. I'm simply trying to educate y'all but you won't listen. After the 2017 draft I'm hoping you'll respect my projections more.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I've got 2016 Dobbs down for:

3200 yards passing
800 yards rushing
40 total TDs

Should be good enough for an invitation to NYC for the heisman trophy presentation and a 1st round grade.
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Not sure what you're basing this on but I hope you're right!
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Absolutely.

Unlike y'all I'm not afraid to be wrong. I'm just really smart. So it rarely happens.
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I really, really hope you are trying to be facetious.

Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
That's cause you guys aren't as good as I am in evaluating NFL talent. I'm simply trying to educate y'all but you won't listen. After the 2017 draft I'm hoping you'll respect my projections more.
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No, this isn't arrogance at all. Still just your opinion, right? What are your qualifications? Have you ever thought that if it feels like you are against the world, your opinions may be the ones that are outlandish. I mean, EVERYONE else can't always be wrong in your world, can they?
 
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Boca Vol said:
Not sure what you're basing this on but I hope you're right!
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Idk about the TD total, but speaking from a totals yardage production standpoint, I think it's possible. Dobbs had about 3000 total yards last year. To get to 4000 total yards, he'd only need to add around 80 total yards per game to his totals for last year on a 12 game projection. If we make it to Atlanta, he'll need to average about 70 more yards per game (14 game projection). If the team manages to make it all the way to the national championship, 67 yards per game.

Idk if we'll see him put up those kind of numbers because of some non-Dobbs factors (like how well we normally do winning the field position battle on special teams, the strength of our running backs, and the possibility of backups getting more PT in our OOC games in 2016), but with the talent and experience of our offensive unit as a whole, I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility. QBs with lesser physical tools have had comparable or better seasons.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
That's cause you guys aren't as good as I am in evaluating NFL talent. I'm simply trying to educate y'all but you won't listen. After the 2017 draft I'm hoping you'll respect my projections more.
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lol so butthurt.

Calm down dude, it's just a message board. No reason to get all prideful and indignant.
 
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#96
What hurts dobbs is that he takes 90%of snaps out of shotgun.He can throw on the run and very mobile if he can improve his deep ball acc. And continue to show that he has alot of potential then a NFL team will take a chance on him. He has the smarts to pick apart teams butch and debord need to just unleash him and let him throw the ball 30 to 40 passes a game
 
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TBrown said:
All I've learned from this thread is that D4H = Iam4utalways
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D4H at times will say things about our players that are borderline offensive.

If they are on our roster and giving their all, I'm not going to bash them. I will point out where improvement is needed.

There is a difference. You won't hear me say a player don't have a chance to do this or that. You may hear me say they blew a chance and that I hope they get another one or two to be successful.

Jump higher Vols.

Edit: I'm not sure who you were trying to insult, but I'm quite sure D4H feels insulted. I don't know D4H, so I'm not sure if I should feel insulted too.
 
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BearCat204 said:
So D4H, would you put Josh Dobbs ahead of Watson, Kaaya, Kelly and Mayfield?
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Of course he would. Watson is the preseason odds on favorite to win the 2016 Heisman trophy and D4H thinks Deshaun is barely, if at all, in Dobbs' league.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I agree his stock will rise. Hurd is a very good RB. But, and I am no expert by any stretch, I just don't see that top end speed that Fournett and Chubb have. I thought Henry was faster than Hurd.

IMO, Hurd would have to have a monster season to go in the first round. I think somewhere around 1700+ yards and 16+ TDs. Now he has the talent to do that but with Kamara and Dobbs getting carries, I just don't see a chance for that type of production.
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Top end speed isn't the end all, be all. Hurd is also significantly larger than Chubb and a far better pass blocker. And he may have been a step slower than Henry, but he is also more maneuverable...so it's all just trade offs and what you want out of your RB.
 
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