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volfanjustin said:
I don't believe for 1 second Trump is a conservative, I hope I am wrong but I think he is fooling millions of Republican voters. I will stay home in November. Surely, as a country we can do better than Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton
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My problem with your statement is "under no circumstance". Sounds just like "I'm voting for him because he's black".

Just as dumb and closed minded.
 
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hog88 said:
My problem with your statement is "under no circumstance". Sounds just like "I'm voting for him because he's black".

Just as dumb and closed minded.
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I can't vote for someone who has been a liberal up until just a couple of years ago. If Hillary all of a sudden ran as a Republican would you vote for her?
 
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Grand Vol asked how.

IMO [Tongue in cheek]

This is a long game that Trump has already started putting in place.

His family has already hired Gary Busey as CEO of Trump Airline (Trump Air Force) and he has been instructed to go to the airplane bone yard in the desert to get an option on all the planes. The instructions also include buying desert property in Mexico large enough to become the new bone yard.

Stephen Baldwin has been hired by Trump as CEO to start the world’s largest and best Airplane Maintenance School beside the bone yard to prepare the planes for flight.

Trump is working with the local magistrate in Bucksnort TN to provide a legal finding that all illegals are a foreign invading force and have no rights within the borders of the United States. This finding will also include that all invaders will be returned to the country they invaded from post haste.

With this finding Trump will sign a statement that under national interest he has suspended the forced retirement of airplane pilots. Trump is calling for them to serve the country in a time of need and to join Trump Airline (Air Force) to get these invaders out of the country.

In addition Trump will name Sherriff Joe as the head of a new agency to establish how and by what means the movement of the invaders will be used in getting them to the planes.

In year two of Trumps term in office movement of the invaders should start. If the invaders refuse to leave the planes when they land in Mexico the pilots are instructed to park the plane in the desert and walk off the plane. They will go to the compound on the base which has a beautiful 50 foot wall built around it with security provided by the KKK and other white supremacy groups.

When the Mexican government protest and states they will not allow this action Trump will proudly tell the world that any action taken to stop the return of the invaders will be considered an act of war on the United States. He will also tell them if they want to shoot down the planes “go ahead as you will be killing your own citizens.”

All of this will be provided by an exclusive contract to Trump Enterprise with the usual cost overruns and a guaranteed profit of no less then 12%. The original cost will be put at 15 billion dollars but in fact it will cost over 200 billion. Trump will announce that in contrast to the more then a trillion dollars we spent in Iraq this is a cheap war. The American people will cheer.

Trump will serve one term and then spend the rest of his life counting the billions he made as President of the United States. It’s in the art of the deal.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I can't vote for someone who has been a liberal up until just a couple of years ago. If Hillary all of a sudden ran as a Republican would you vote for her?
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No, Hillary has a public political track record along with (what little she's divulged) plans that go against me and my interests.

Trump has released some details of his tax plan and Obamacare replacement which I don't have problems with yet. I haven't decided if I will vote for him or not, didn't in the primary but I'm keeping an open mind.

BTW all remaining candidates are either left of center or compete azzhats.
 
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Lol I just now say where fox stated "trump gets coveted Gary busey endorsement".

Please tell me this is a joke.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Disagree.
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When the leaders of a political party sends someone to give a speech at aching the person winning the majority of the primaries and call the candidate a con man, phoney, a terrible business person, basically a disaster on every front is a disgrace.
I don't care who the party is nor who the candidate is this is a pathetic and disgraceful act.
 
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hog88 said:
No, Hillary has a public political track record along with (what little she's divulged) plans that go against me and my interests.

Trump has released some details of his tax plan and Obamacare replacement which I don't have problems with yet. I haven't decided if I will vote for him or not, didn't in the primary but I'm keeping an open mind.

BTW all remaining candidates are either left of center or compete azzhats.
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I agree on what he is saying now, but on a lot of these issues it goes against what he has said before. Can someone change their minds, sure. But not on every single issue.

Can you say for sure you know where he stands on every major issue?

I would vote for any other R candidate in the general, just not Trump I truly believe he is tricking R voters.
 
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Gramps said:
When the leaders of a political party sends someone to give a speech at aching the person winning the majority of the primaries and call the candidate a con man, phoney, a terrible business person, basically a disaster on every front is a disgrace.
I don't care who the party is nor who the candidate is this is a pathetic and disgraceful act.
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Even if it's true?
 
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Gramps said:
When the leaders of a political party sends someone to give a speech at aching the person winning the majority of the primaries and call the candidate a con man, phoney, a terrible business person, basically a disaster on every front is a disgrace.
I don't care who the party is nor who the candidate is this is a pathetic and disgraceful act.
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Yeah, because Romney couldn't have wanted to do it on his own.
 
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Gramps said:
When the leaders of a political party sends someone to give a speech at aching the person winning the majority of the primaries and call the candidate a con man, phoney, a terrible business person, basically a disaster on every front is a disgrace.
I don't care who the party is nor who the candidate is this is a pathetic and disgraceful act.
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Perhaps, but all true points.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I agree on what he is saying now, but on a lot of these issues it goes against what he has said before. Can someone change their minds, sure. But not on every single issue.

Can you say for sure you know where he stands on every major issue?

I would vote for any other R candidate in the general, just not Trump I truly believe he is tricking R voters.
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No and I can't for any of the other R candidates either. They all suck balls.
 
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hog88 said:
Can you give a synopsis?
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Basically Trump is a fraud, listed his failed businesses, listed his character flaws, said he would vote for Rubio, Cruz or Kasich, pretty much called him childish (in a more eloquent Romney way) and a blowhard.

I respect the hell out of Romney as a person and as a candidate. And IMO, he was spot on.

However, this conference should have been done two months ago.
 
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Gramps said:
This is one of the most pathetic actions I have ever seen a political party do. This is a disgrace to everyone that have ever voted in a GOP primary.
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Agreed. It's a collective establishment temper tantrum.
Why even have a primary process?

...and soembody tell me why I should care what a RINO like Romney, who can't win the big one,has to say. It's like Oprah telling me about weight management.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, because Romney couldn't have wanted to do it on his own.
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He did not do it on his own.

Forget Trump just look at the actions of the party leaders. I have never in my life or never heard of a political party attach the leader in the primary in anyway close to this period.

I will bet money this backfires on the establishment.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Basically Trump is a fraud, listed his failed businesses, listed his character flaws, said he would vote for Rubio, Cruz or Kasich, pretty much called him childish (in a more eloquent Romney way) and a blowhard.

I respect the hell out of Romney as a person and as a candidate. And IMO, he was spot on.

However, this conference should have been done two months ago.
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All this is going to do is piss off all the people supporting Trump, especially the ones that are doing so only because he's not the "establishment".

As you said, this should have been done months ago. Too little too late.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Basically Trump is a fraud, listed his failed businesses, listed his character flaws, said he would vote for Rubio, Cruz or Kasich, pretty much called him childish (in a more eloquent Romney way) and a blowhard.

I respect the hell out of Romney as a person and as a candidate. And IMO, he was spot on.

However, this conference should have been done two months ago.
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Sounds desperate especially mentioning he would vote for Cruz.
 
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