2016 Election

[n_huffhines]

Foreign aid = Neo-con

How do you not know this already?

 

[hog88]

Nor is it our ****ing job. If we can't help our own, we don't need to be helping others.

And for the record: we are partially to blame

We help our own you dolt. We have very little poverty in this country.

 

[hog88]

Lol

Laugh all you want but it's the truth.

 

[Grand Vol]

How do you not know this already?

Are you trying to pull this "selective quoting" out just to try to prove your point?

You say I tap dance around the questions. Might I suggest you totally ignore information slapped in your face.

 

[Vol8188]

We help our own you dolt. We have very little poverty in this country.

And every conservative on here complains about it. Yet you all seem to be alright with us giving away money to Muslims

 

[n_huffhines]

BTW, it seems people think "neocon" is a pejorative. It's a label that describes the school of thought held by establishment republicans. I don't like the ideas they champion, but I don't use neocon as an insult. It's what he is.

 

[carlos86]

Rubio: Can't lump Pakistan, Libya and Egypt together in vote on Paul's bill | TheHill



Next?

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Fighting for Florida - U.S. Senator for Florida, Marco Rubio

That's just common sense.

 

[hog88]

And every conservative on here complains about it. Yet you all seem to be alright with us giving away money to Muslims

I'm not the bigot who decides who gets aid due to religion.

 

[n_huffhines]

Are you trying to pull this "selective quoting" out just to try to prove your point?

You say I tap dance around the questions. Might I suggest you totally ignore information slapped in your face.

The stuff being slapped in my face is nonsense. I asked why he voted against that bill if he opposes foreign aid. Your answer is essentially that he supports foreign aid. Then you say "You asked why he voted against the bill.". No. No, I didn't. I asked a different question.

Excuse for not continuing the conversation.

 

[Vol8188]

I'm not the bigot who decides who gets aid due to religion.

No country should get aid. Israel for example. There's no reason we should hand out foreign aid to Israel

 

[carlos86]

How does that relate to the points being made here? I am saying that supporting foreign aid makes one a neoconservative. Your link explains why he is supporting foreign aid, IE it is explaining why he took a neoconservative position...

I guess the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief that President Bush passed through congress, that saved the lives of over 5.1 million men, women, and children worldwide and prevented prevent 7 million from being infected with AIDS in Africa has got to be the most Necon thing ever.

 

[n_huffhines]

I guess the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief that President Bush passed through congress, that saved the lives of over 5.1 million men, women, and children worldwide and prevented prevent 7 million from being infected with AIDS in Africa has got to be the most Necon thing ever.

Let's pretend every dollar is spent this well.

 

[hog88]

No country should get aid. Israel for example. There's no reason we should hand out foreign aid to Israel

That's a very isolationist attitude. I hate to break it to you but the economy is now global and foreign aid is necessary to promote stability. Now I agree that some aid should be stopped and all aid should have oversight and conditions.

 

[carlos86]

No country should get aid. Israel for example. There's no reason we should hand out foreign aid to Israel

Why does Israel get U.S. Aid???

75% of US aid to Israel is spent in the U.S.

US and Israel jointly develop an anti-ballistic missile defense system. 50% of it is paid by Israel and a lot of manpower is from Israel.

 

[carlos86]

That's a very isolationist attitude. I hate to break it to you but the economy is now global and foreign aid is necessary to promote stability. Now I agree that some aid should be stopped and all aid should have oversight and conditions.

Their Rand and Ron Paul supporters what do you expect.

 

[carlos86]

Let's pretend every dollar is spent this well.

And let's pretend that the foreign aid given to some countries would be spent the right way in the U.S.

 

[Vol8188]

That's a very isolationist attitude. I hate to break it to you but the economy is now global and foreign aid is necessary to promote stability. Now I agree that some aid should be stopped and all aid should have oversight and conditions.

Lol not handing out free money to other nations is "isolationist". That's absurd. And we don't promote stability. We've destabilized the entire Middle East. Wtf are you talking about, "promote stability"?

No ones saying don't interact with, trade with, and work with other countries. What I am saying is that I would love to see more ideological consistency from the right when it comes to handing out other people's money.

 

[n_huffhines]

That's a very isolationist attitude. I hate to break it to you but the economy is now global and foreign aid is necessary to promote stability. Now I agree that some aid should be stopped and all aid should have oversight and conditions.

It has nothing to do with isolationism. It's welfare + federal government and you mix the 2 and you get madness like we see in our current system. We give aid to Israel and her enemies. WTF. Who supports this lunacy?

 

[n_huffhines]

And let's pretend that not giving foreign aid to some countries who be spent the right way in the U.S.

Come again?

 

[Vol8188]

It has nothing to do with isolationism. It's welfare + federal government and you mix the 2 and you get madness like we see in our current system. We give aid to Israel and her enemies. WTF. Who supports this lunacy?

Hog does

 

[hog88]

Their Rand and Ron Paul supporters what do you expect.

And they wonder why he can't get traction. With people like them doing his promotion he's screwed.

 

[Grand Vol]

The stuff being slapped in my face is nonsense. I asked why he voted against that bill if he opposes foreign aid. Your answer is essentially that he supports foreign aid. Then you say "You asked why he voted against the bill.". No. No, I didn't. I asked a different question.

Excuse for not continuing the conversation.

My answer was why he voted against that specific amendment, not debating the merits of if he supports foreign aid or not.

But in your world, anyone who supports foreign aid is a neo-con. Oh?

Rand Paul argues that he never proposed ending foreign aid to Israel – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Rand = Neo-con

Next point?

 

[Vol8188]

And they wonder why he can't get traction. With people like them doing his promotion he's screwed.

I'm sorry to hear that you're not fiscally conservative

 

[n_huffhines]

My answer was why he voted against that specific amendment, not debating the merits of if he supports foreign aid or not.

But in your world, anyone who supports foreign aid is a neo-con. Oh?

Rand Paul argues that he never proposed ending foreign aid to Israel – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Rand = Neo-con

Next point?

In some ways Rand is a neocon, which is why he never had my full support. If you're arguing that he is on the same level as Rubio, IDK what to say other than goodbye.

 

[hog88]

Lol not handing out free money to other nations is "isolationist". That's absurd. And we don't promote stability. We've destabilized the entire Middle East. Wtf are you talking about, "promote stability"?

No ones saying don't interact with, trade with, and work with other countries. What I am saying is that I would love to see more ideological consistency from the right when it comes to handing out other people's money.

Ideological consistency? How is foreign aid not consistent with a true conservative ideology? Help those in need, promote business investment, education and security? Yep, I can't connect any of those to conservatism.

What you don't understand is that without us being involved someone else will be and I doubt China or Russia will have our best interests in mind.