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SpaceCoastVol said:
I think hog offered up a pretty good one. Why not make the gubbamint subsidize the cost of adoptions? You cannot make abortions more expensive because the gutter trash that uses them for birth control would never be able to afford them anyway, but by offering up adoptions that pay, there is a potential income stream. And your assertion that a woman is being 'forced' to undergo pregnancy is ridiculous melodrama.
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Please defend or better explain this point.

My questions...

Is pregnancy not a strain on the human body?
What if the woman does not wish to undergo that strain or expense?
What if the woman chooses not undertake the risk of childbirth?
What if the woman is in high school and doesn't wish to be stigmatized or have her life derailed?

Should the law be able to require that everyone donate bone marrow? It would save lives. There are relatively few complications from the procedure?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Please defend or better explain this point.

My questions...

Is pregnancy not a strain on the human body?
What if the woman does not wish to undergo that strain or expense?
What if the woman chooses not undertake the risk of childbirth?
What if the woman is in high school and doesn't wish to be stigmatized or have her life derailed?

Should the law be able to require that everyone donate bone marrow? It would save lives. There are relatively few complications from the procedure?
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OK, how about then if this is an option... you know... to avoid the stress and danger of childbirth, they have an irreversable tubal ligation at the same time?
 
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First of all, I am personally opposed to abortions.


The Republicans thrive on promoting pro life yet when a child is born to a mother that is not financially able to support, they want to cut out all benefits to help the child survive.

If the Repubs are going to force a mother to have a child they cannot afford be willing to help support that child and stop b***hing about it.

Then you have the Dems that are promoting abortion yet if a mother that can't afford the child has the baby instead of aborting, they want to keep the child up it's entire life.

If the Dems prefer the mother kill the child she cannot afford and she refuses, stop keeping the child up with taxpayer money.

Neither party's stance makes sense. It is one of the ways the D and R's toys with their bases.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
What about women that simply do not want to have a baby, but cannot afford your proposed highly taxed abortion?
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It's a woman's right to make decisions affecting her body. However, all decisions about having a child should take place prior to conception. Condoms and BC pills are cheap.
 
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Gramps said:
First of all, I am personally opposed to abortions.

The Republicans thrive on promoting pro life yet when a child is born to a mother that is not financially able to support, they want to cut out all benefits to help the child survive.

If the Repubs are going to force a mother to have a child they cannot afford be willing to help support that child and stop b***hing about it.

Then you have the Dems that are promoting abortion yet if a mother that can't afford the child has the baby instead of aborting, they want to keep the child up it's entire life.

If the Dems prefer the mother kill the child she cannot afford and she refuses, stop keeping the child up with taxpayer money.

Neither party's stance makes sense. It is one of the ways the D and R's toys with their bases.
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I am personally against abortion, but prohibition creates bigger problems so I think you have to allow it (unless somehow we can scientifically prove it is murder).

I see no problem with this Republican position. They are saying government isn't the best solution. You encourage more of this behavior and you're taking the responsibility away from the community and putting it on the government. Why is the government responsible? We should have a government that entrusts the community with solving their own problems. Leave it to the churches. Leave it to the Elks Lodge and other community organizations.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I am personally against abortion, but prohibition creates bigger problems so I think you have to allow it (unless somehow we can scientifically prove it is murder).

I see no problem with this Republican position. They are saying government isn't the best solution. You encourage more of this behavior and you're taking the responsibility away from the community and putting it on the government. Why is the government responsible? We should have a government that entrusts the community with solving their own problems. Leave it to the churches. Leave it to the Elks Lodge and other community organizations.
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The Republicans are saying the government has the right to force a woman to have a child.

If the government has the right to force a woman to have a child it is also their place to support the unwanted child they forced to be born.

If the Republicans do not want to support the child then they should not force the child to be born. That is common sense.
 
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Gramps said:
The Republicans are saying the government has the right to force a woman to have a child.

If the government has the right to force a woman to have a child it is also their place to support the unwanted child they forced to be born.

If the Republicans do not want to support the child then they should not force the child to be born. That is common sense.
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How is the government "forcing a woman to have a child"? Am I missing something, did they participate in the impregnation of the embryo with a secret agent?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
All forms of BC (outside of permanent surgical options) fail from time to time.

Not getting pregnant requires not having sex.

Probably not an option most guys would like.
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Should go back to the old school where you had to be married to the woman first.

Nobody gets laid then.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
All forms of BC (outside of permanent surgical options) fail from time to time.

Not getting pregnant requires not having sex.

Probably not an option most guys would like.
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Yet, these women get 6-7 abortions. Personal responsibilities has to come in play sometime.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
All forms of BC (outside of permanent surgical options) fail from time to time.

Not getting pregnant requires not having sex.

Probably not an option most guys would like.
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I believe you are never going to change the mind outside the standard deviation on either side. I am kind of like Gramps in that I couldn't care less if you have an abortion or not - that's between you and God (if He exists). I have a real problem with those that use it as a method of birth control. Those are probably a small percentage and I especially take exception to those that are thus using taxpayer funding for that purpose. One time... OK.. 'mistakes' happen. Second time. nope. Just like DUI. Once is bad, but the second time, go straight to jail. Have the kid or get your tubes tied. There is the personal responsibility thingy that the left cares not about.
 
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25% of Feds Would Consider Leaving Their Jobs if Trump Becomes President - Management - GovExec.com

One in four federal workers would consider leaving their jobs if Trump were elected president, according to a new survey conducted by the Government Business Council, Government Executive Media Group’s research arm. About 14 percent of respondents said they would definitely consider leaving federal service under President Trump, while an additional 11 percent said they might. The findings indicate those leaving government would come from agencies' top ranks, as a majority of respondents were in General Schedule positions GS-13 and higher.
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God I hope he wins so these clowns can join the real word here in the private sector. They will be begging for their cushy job back.
 
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