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Vol8188 said:
We do work 8 hour days. We are required to be there 30 minutes before and 30 minutes after school to supervise kids. We actually only get 2 months off. We begin about 2 weeks before start back, and end about 2 weeks after they're done.

As far as the pay, I'll break it down in the next post.
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Yeah, but an hour off for lunch, right? I don't count that in my 8 hour day.
 
#5,727
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Coaching pays far less than minimum wage. The county I left paid 875 a year for assistant football coaches.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I make 35,000 a year. As do all NC teachers for their first 5 years in NC.

We work 10 months a year. We are required to be at school 8 hours a day (although to be effective you have to put more time than that into it). And yes I know some teachers do put in minimum time and effort, and I'm not defending them.

If you divide out 35,000 by 10 months by 4 weeks a month by 40 hours you make 875 a week or 21.875 an hour.

If you multiply it out over 12 months you'd get 42k. The starting salary isn't bad.

The issue is that over a career, Nc teachers will only receive 4 raises. Those raises are given twice a decade (every 5 years). Topping out at 50k (equivalent to a 60k salary working 12 months a year).

That's an employee with 30 years experience and a masters degree. They'd only make 50k or a 12 month 60k equivalent. 60k is the starting salary for most people with a masters degree, not the end salary.

Also, my student growth was top 90 out of over 59k teachers in NC. Yet I'm still making the minimum 35,000k a year and will continue to do so until my 6th year as a teacher.
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Yeah, I know the opportunity for growing income is not like it is in the market. What about pension though? You get above market average deals for that, right?
 
#5,730
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My BIL teaches in Texas and they started him at like $44k and he got an extra $8k to coach soccer. That was like 10 years ago (he doesn't coach anymore).
 
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Vol8188 said:
It's not lunch. It's called our planning period. It's when we make copies, grade papers, plan our units, etc. it's not a break.
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Interesting...I know my HS is not a fair representation of how most schools are run, but my teachers were gone so much. Each teacher had 1-2 TAs for grading papers. It was all block schedule and so they had a free 80 minutes every other day + lunch.
 
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n_huffhines said:
My BIL teaches in Texas and they started him at like $44k and he got an extra $8k to coach soccer. That was like 10 years ago (he doesn't coach anymore).
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Yeah, TX schools actually set up job fairs in Raleigh all the time. With all of the colleges here they know they have a decent young talent pool to pick from and their pay blows Nc out of the water.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Interesting...I know my HS is not a fair representation of how most schools are run, but my teachers were gone so much. Each teacher had 1-2 TAs for grading papers. It was all block schedule and so they had a free 80 minutes every other day + lunch.
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Most schools have lunch duty. For the lower grades teachers normally take their kids to lunch and sit with them. At my school we have to pull lunch duty twice a week. And honestly, I'm normally grading something (I have about 85 students so if it takes 30 seconds to grade something simples you're looking at over 40 minutes of work), looking through test data (what was frequently missed, how can we reteach this, etc), making copies, or planning.

And now: I know some teachers are not doing all that. I had a guy in high school who would tell us to read the chapter and answer the questions. Then he'd read his paper and normally fall asleep. I'm not defending those people.
 
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One of the biggest things that's increased teacher work load is the lack of textbooks. I know of very few people who have updated textbooks that they can use for their subject.

Because of that every thing I teach is normally through a mix of power points and worksheets that I have to make myself. Doesn't sound that bad until you realize probably 4 hours of work goes in to planning every 8 hour day that I work.
 
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My step mom is a teacher and pulls 6 figures.

I know a couple high school football coaches pulling close to 100k.
 
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Obsessed said:
My step mom is a teacher and pulls 6 figures.

I know a couple high school football coaches pulling close to 100k.
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Some of the older teachers in NC do decent because of masters and Ph.D. pay, but they were all grandfathered in and that no longer exists here.

But I don't think they do 6 figure, well. Maybe 70-80. And are these coaches in TN? I've heard of booster clubs paying coaches, but most counties don't allow that.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Some of the older teachers in NC do decent because of masters and Ph.D. pay, but they were all grandfathered in and that no longer exists here.

But I don't think they do 6 figure, well. Maybe 70-80. And are these coaches in TN? I've heard of booster clubs paying coaches, but most counties don't allow that.
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Step mom has a double masters.

The coaches are in Arkansas. High school football is just as big here as it is in Texas.
 
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Obsessed said:
Step mom has a double masters.

The coaches are in Arkansas. High school football is just as big here as it is in Texas.
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They pay her extra for each masters? Interesting. I've considered during a double masters in sports administration and education
 
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Vol8188 said:
They pay her extra for each masters? Interesting. I've considered during a double masters in sports administration and education
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Hers is in education and administration.


She's in California too. So that may be some of it.
 
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Vol8188 said:
We do work 8 hour days. We are required to be there 30 minutes before and 30 minutes after school to supervise kids. We actually only get 2 months off. We begin about 2 weeks before start back, and end about 2 weeks after they're done.

As far as the pay, I'll break it down in the next post.
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2 months?
 
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Vol8188 said:
I make 35,000 a year. As do all NC teachers for their first 5 years in NC.

We work 10 months a year. We are required to be at school 8 hours a day (although to be effective you have to put more time than that into it). And yes I know some teachers do put in minimum time and effort, and I'm not defending them.

If you divide out 35,000 by 10 months by 4 weeks a month by 40 hours you make 875 a week or 21.875 an hour.

If you multiply it out over 12 months you'd get 42k. The starting salary isn't bad.

The issue is that over a career, Nc teachers will only receive 4 raises. Those raises are given twice a decade (every 5 years). Topping out at 50k (equivalent to a 60k salary working 12 months a year).

That's an employee with 30 years experience and a masters degree. They'd only make 50k or a 12 month 60k equivalent. 60k is the starting salary for most people with a masters degree, not the end salary.

Also, my student growth was top 90 out of over 59k teachers in NC. Yet I'm still making the minimum 35,000k a year and will continue to do so until my 6th year as a teacher.
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You must love what you do.
 
#5,747
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Another batch of Hillary Clinton emails have been released. Here's one.

Classified (SECRET) email on Clinton server discussing combat deaths in Afghanistan w/ top military brass.

https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRCEmail_Jan29thWeb/O-2015-08639-01-29/DOC_0C05792626/C05792626.pdf
 

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Vol8188 said:
I make 35,000 a year. As do all NC teachers for their first 5 years in NC.

We work 10 months a year. We are required to be at school 8 hours a day (although to be effective you have to put more time than that into it). And yes I know some teachers do put in minimum time and effort, and I'm not defending them.

If you divide out 35,000 by 10 months by 4 weeks a month by 40 hours you make 875 a week or 21.875 an hour.

If you multiply it out over 12 months you'd get 42k. The starting salary isn't bad.

The issue is that over a career, Nc teachers will only receive 4 raises. Those raises are given twice a decade (every 5 years). Topping out at 50k (equivalent to a 60k salary working 12 months a year).

That's an employee with 30 years experience and a masters degree. They'd only make 50k or a 12 month 60k equivalent. 60k is the starting salary for most people with a masters degree, not the end salary.

Also, my student growth was top 90 out of over 59k teachers in NC. Yet I'm still making the minimum 35,000k a year and will continue to do so until my 6th year as a teacher.
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Sounds like NC screws teachers by lumping everyone into the same bucket. Your last point should piss you off....... That's socialist/commie BS
 
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Clinton event in Iowa. Lol

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Ted Cruz's campaign is trying to shame people into voting for him in Iowa.
 

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