Gun control debate (merged)

[Obsessed]

Sell your gun and use the card to buy essentials and the extra income to buy a better gun. Seems like a good trade to me.

Kind of what I was thinking.

More government stupidity.

 

[TNsnyper20]

I'd like to know where exactly this 320 million we don't have is going to come from.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I'd like to know where exactly this 320 million we don't have is going to come from.

Didn't you get the memo? We just make it. It literally grows on (from) trees!!

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Kind of what I was thinking.

More government stupidity.

Or, you can finally sell that gun in your cache that you've been trying to get rid of at a 25% premium instead of a 50% loss.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I'd like to know where exactly this 320 million we don't have is going to come from.

$360 million out of a $3 trillion budget is like pocket lint. They could boost it up to $3.6 billion and it wouldn't even be 1% of the budget.

 

[bnhunt]

Or, you can finally sell that gun in your cache that you've been trying to get rid of at a 25% premium instead of a 50% loss.

The fact that people have a "cache" of guns is one of the big problems. Why do people need 15-20 guns?

 

[tumscalcium]

The fact that people have a "cache" of guns is one of the big problems. Why do people need 15-20 guns?

Determining what people "need" sets a very dangerous precedent.

 

[bnhunt]

Determining what people "need" sets a very dangerous precedent.

I tend to agree. However, for most things there are parameters of reasonableness and at some point it would seem to me that the amount of guns someone owns would exceed that threshold.

 

[TNsnyper20]

I tend to agree. However, for most things there are parameters of reasonableness and at some point it would seem to me that the amount of guns someone owns would exceed that threshold.

I have a purpose for all of my guns as do most gun owners. I have one exception and its more sentimental than anything else.

 

[bnhunt]

I have a purpose for all of my guns as do most gun owners. I have one exception and its more sentimental than anything else.

If your guns are for your protection in the event of the overthrow of the gov't or because Obama is creating a Muslim state, then it may be for a purpose, but not a legitimate one.

 

[Carl Pickens]

The fact that people have a "cache" of guns is one of the big problems. Why do people need 15-20 guns?

Why do people need 3-4 televisions? Cars? Homes? ..... Some people collect them like stamps or baseball cards .... What business is it of yours?

 

[Carl Pickens]

If your guns are for your protection in the event of the overthrow of the gov't or because Obama is creating a Muslim state, then it may be for a purpose, but not a legitimate one.

I bet you have never owned or even fired a gun above the caliber of a Daisy 880 ...... Have you?

 

[Carl Pickens]

$360 million out of a $3 trillion budget is like pocket lint. They could boost it up to $3.6 billion and it wouldn't even be 1% of the budget.

It all adds up Ras.....

 

[TNsnyper20]

If your guns are for your protection in the event of the overthrow of the gov't or because Obama is creating a Muslim state, then it may be for a purpose, but not a legitimate one.

They can all be used for such an event, regardless of who's president. But, that's not the purpose I was referencing.

The best part of this country is that you don't have to agree with my guns or the reasons I own them. But, you do have to understand my rights to owning them.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

If your guns are for your protection in the event of the overthrow of the gov't or because Obama is creating a Muslim state, then it may be for a purpose, but not a legitimate one.

What if your neighbor(s) doesn't have a rifle and they would like to join in on the fight? What if there is a shortage of one type of ammo but a surplus of another kind?

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Why do people need 3-4 televisions? Cars? Homes? ..... Some people collect them like stamps or baseball cards .... What business is it of yours?

This. I'll own whatever the hell I want to own. The reasonableness is up to me, and me alone.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I tend to agree. However, for most things there are parameters of reasonableness and at some point it would seem to me that the amount of guns someone owns would exceed that threshold.

Anyways, it is no more of my business how many guns my neighbor buys than it is my business on anything else they choose to waste spend their money on.

 

[Obsessed]

The fact that people have a "cache" of guns is one of the big problems. Why do people need 15-20 guns?

Well.

We found LG's long lost cousin.

 

[Grand Vol]

This. I'll own whatever the hell I want to own. The reasonableness is up to me, and me alone.

It's completely unreasonable to own that ghost assault rifle with the high capacity clip! You have no use for it!

(just trying it on for size)

 

[Grand Vol]

I tend to agree. However, for most things there are parameters of reasonableness and at some point it would seem to me that the amount of guns someone owns would exceed that threshold.

Exactly what other things have "parameters of reasonableness" applied to them?

 

[1972 Grad]

The fact that people have a "cache" of guns is one of the big problems. Why do people need 15-20 guns?

Well in handguns, everybody needs at least a couple of revolvers....maybe a .38 and .44 Magnum, and maybe a .22 for target practice. In semi-autos you need a couple of 9mm, a .45, a .380 to carry, and maybe a .40 if you can't decide between the 9 and the 45, and a .22 for target practice . That gets you up to about 9 handguns.

Throw in a couple of shotguns for home defense or hunting, a 12 gauge pump, maybe a 18.5 inch double barrel for the house.

If you hunt slightly bigger game, you may need a 30-06, a 30-30, a .270, .308....so figure at least 2 or 3 more rifles. If you are into varmint hunting, throw in a .223, 22-250, or the like. So, that's a couple more. You need at least one semi-auto .223/556 or 7.62x39 to protect yourself from SHTF scenarios. Maybe a longer range , harder hitting .308.

Then if you like to plink or squirrel hunt, and like .22s because they are cheap to shoot ( or used to be), you need a couple of bolt actions, at least one semi-auto, a lever action for the times when the cowboy comes out in you, and possibly a pump. So, there is a minimum of 5 .22's. Throw in the old .22's , etc passed down from your father and grandfather, and you are up to maybe 25......9 handguns, 2 shotguns, 5 centerfire rifles, 5 rimfire .22s, and whatever is passed down.

 

[TNsnyper20]

It's completely unreasonable to own that ghost assault rifle with the high capacity clip! You have no use for it!

(just trying it on for size)

This one?

 

[bnhunt]

Why do people need 3-4 televisions? Cars? Homes? ..... Some people collect them like stamps or baseball cards .... What business is it of yours?

Not sure the last time a baseball card or stamp killed someone.

 

[bnhunt]

I bet you have never owned or even fired a gun above the caliber of a Daisy 880 ...... Have you?

I have shot a handgun a few times at a firing range and tried skeet shooting a few times. I was admittingly not a very good shot and didn't particularly enjoy it either.

 

[bnhunt]

This. I'll own whatever the hell I want to own. The reasonableness is up to me, and me alone.

Wrong. It's not just up to you. The gov't has set certain restrictions and those restrictions need to be tighter.