Recruiting forum off topic thread (merged)

[BJHSVol]

The reason we lead the reincarceration rates is because prison is not uncomfortable and because we release them so quickly. Most know they'll serve only 25% of their sentence. Many will never rehabilitate and should be incarcerated for life.

Or maybe it's because it's impossible to find a job/support a family and they Feel like they don't have another choice. Prison sentences and drug laws have only got harsher and they haven't solved anything. Maybe it's time to try something else

 

[Catbone]

Well I never see those stories on any website anywhere. Yahoo, abc, nbc, New York Times, Washington post, etc. I guess they're all liberal publications.

But if those things happened. Great. It's just never ever talked about on any news outlet. Which is strange.

Because almost all news outlets are very liberal

 

[engineerVOL]

Well I never see those stories on any website anywhere. Yahoo, abc, nbc, New York Times, Washington post, etc. I guess they're all liberal publications.

But if those things happened. Great. It's just never ever talked about on any news outlet. Which is strange.

Because it's good news. That's not strange for news outlets.

 

[Vols4us]

Ok, thanks. Interesting kinda odd examples. I sorta see your drift on the last example. Also, nobody I know carries a gun. Don't assume.

So I know majority here love their guns like children, but I'm interested to find out more examples. How many times has a civilian minding their own business shot a crazy person trying to kill innocent people to prevent a massacre and became the hero?

You must know very few people in this state or are in a controlled environment that does not permit guns. There are about 6.5 M people in TN. About 25% are under 21. That means there are about 4.875 million adults. There are over 500,000 permits issued and growing extremely fast. At least 1 in 10 of your fellow TN residents has a gun on them at least part of the time. With recent events they probably pack at higher percentage of the time than in the past.

Nothing odd about the examples, but there is about your response. The first means any idiot can come up with a gun, even shotguns and rifles, from any number of sources that are legal or illegal. If millions of illegals and billions in drugs can cross the border undetected, do you not think guns make it here just as easy? C'mon. If a concealed carry permit holder had been in the liberal Unitarian Church, which does not permit guns, the wacko could have been put down when he started shouting, waving his shotgun around, and threatening everybody. No deaths, no injuries, other than to the wacko. The second example was really easy to understand as well. If those attending CR had known security was at the church, only the ones that were sincere in their recovery would have come. Then a young person would not have been groomed for a molestation that when discovered by his parents would not have caused turmoil in the congregation as well as the women in the congregation would not have been afraid to enter and leave the church building, which affected attendance and their Christian fellowship.

Where were the mass shootings and what was the policy/law relating to weapons at those locations? The vast majority were soft targets. No guns permitted. You really do appear to be trolling. As to your last question - you have google. Use it. You will find them. Tired of playing.

 

[InVOLuntary]

No, I have not. I was a police officer for a while before getting out of it.

Well I have. I have been targeted by the same family over several years. The have burglarized my home and business and get put in jail and released, as soon as they get out they come right back and do it again. It's been difficult to get insurance. The main one finally got prison but he's due out soon so we're starting to get worried. I truly believe that the only thing that will stop him is a bullet to the head. We constantly monitor the family whether they are in or out, we have too. They literally have warrants on them within 7 days of being released every time. They do not fear our prisons at all.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Well I never see those stories on any website anywhere. Yahoo, abc, nbc, New York Times, Washington post, etc. I guess they're all liberal publications.

But if those things happened. Great. It's just never ever talked about on any news outlet. Which is strange.

If it doesn't break the liberal rule book, go to the NRA magazine and look for "The Armed Citizen". It takes direct quotes from newspapers around the country and cites the source.

 

[mommasvol]

Sorry dude. Was going by the name. Also, prayers and Jesus doesn't end terrorism. Wish it did, but it doesn't.

oh but he does end terrorism go read Zechariah 12 look i know you don't believe but Islam will rule the world for 42 months and the whole world will mourn but in Zechariah 12 is just one place in the bible were Jesus will rule with a rod of iron from Jerusalem and I can tell you it is going to get a lot worse such as never seen before I really would like to talk to you abt a whole lot of things such as what is life may the grace of God help you to see

 

[74volz]

Are you deliberately ignoring my posts? It doesn't matter if its rare. If you have the means to defend you and yours, I believe that you are obligated to do that. I don't live in fear, I am prepared to do what I have to do. I pray every day that that situation never arises but if it does, I feel like I am prepared. If carrying a gun makes you uncomfortable, that's fine...I am extremely comfortable with one and so is my wife.

No, not ignoring. I get your comfortable with a gun because you used to be a cop and have had proper training. I grew up around guns my whole life with my dad being a cop. I'm not uncomfortable around them. I just don't find it necessary to carry one. I'm not that comfortable with people that carry just because they went to a firing range. In a crisis situation you could probably handle that better mentally than someone going to target practice. I hope you never have to go through a horrible situation.

 

[74volz]

If it doesn't break the liberal rule book, go to the NRA magazine and look for "The Armed Citizen". It takes direct quotes from newspapers around the country and cites the source.

Sorry man, I don't support the NRA on any level. Maybe I'll open up to check it out to see what all of you are talking about. Worth the knowledge to discuss. But I read where you've had some bad experiences with intruders out to get you and your family. I'm really sorry you have to deal with something like that. My dad being a cop, I heard the stories and threats, too. I know you're protected. Hope nothing bad happens to you or your family.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Sorry man, I don't support the NRA on any level. Maybe I'll open up to check it out to see what all of you are talking about. Worth the knowledge to discuss. But I read where you've had some bad experiences with intruders out to get you and your family. I'm really sorry you have to deal with something like that. My dad being a cop, I heard the stories and threats, too. I know you're protected. Hope nothing bad happens to you or your family.

I love the cops. Have many friends in law enforcement. They've all told me the same thing, don't count on us being there when you need us. Make sure you are prepared to protect yourself.

They know the system is setup to protect the criminals not the victims.

Edit: Also, by using the NRA magazine as a source to finding the articles is really not supporting them. By using your bias against the NRA is turning a blind eye to reality.

 

[74volz]

oh but he does end terrorism go read Zechariah 12 look i know you don't believe but Islam will rule the world for 42 months and the whole world will mourn but in Zechariah 12 is just one place in the bible were Jesus will rule with a rod of iron from Jerusalem and I can tell you it is going to get a lot worse such as never seen before I really would like to talk to you abt a whole lot of things such as what is life may the grace of God help you to see

Well that's interesting. I believe in God. I'm all good. Just don't think any of us will be around for that 42 month Islam rule. Not too worried about it. But thank you for the sincerity.

 

[74volz]

I love the cops. Have many friends in law enforcement. They've all told me the same thing, don't count on us being there when you need us. Make sure you are prepared to protect yourself.

They know the system is setup to protect the criminals not the victims.

Edit: Also, by using the NRA magazine as a source to finding the articles is really not supporting them. By using your bias against the NRA is turning a blind eye to reality.

Well like I said I'll give it a shot(no pun intended)I'm always open to see the other side. May not agree, but it's worth the info to see where other people are coming from. Gives it a better understanding.

 

[mommasvol]

oh but he does end terrorism go read Zechariah 12 look i know you don't believe but Islam will rule the world for 42 months and the whole world will mourn but in Zechariah 12 is just one place in the bible were Jesus will rule with a rod of iron from Jerusalem and I can tell you it is going to get a lot worse such as never seen before I really would like to talk to you abt a whole lot of things such as what is life may the grace of God help you to see

Well that's interesting. I believe in God. I'm all good. Just don't think any of us will be around for that 42 month Islam rule. Not too worried about it. But thank you for the sincerity.

unless you planning on leaving soon you are seeing the beginning of just that all nations are in place too bring it abt you are looking at the beginning of a one world gov. we are in the last day as the bible talks abt the generation that seen Israel become a nation shall not pass away before all these thing will come abt that is 67 yrs now and Satan believes in God and he ain't all good

 

[74volz]

unless you planning on leaving soon you are seeing the beginning of just that all nations are in place too bring it abt you are looking at the beginning of a one world gov. we are in the last day as the bible talks abt the generation that seen Israel become a nation shall not pass away before all these thing will come abt that is 67 yrs now and Satan believes in God and he ain't all good

Ok, I hear what you're saying and understand. I just choose to not live in that kind of fear. Life is too short for that.

 

[mommasvol]

Ok, I hear what you're saying and understand. I just choose to not live in that kind of fear. Life is too short for that.

I am not in fear looking forward to Jesus coming this world is filled with lies and deceive t it will be nice to see absolute truth rule and reign for a 1000 yrs then for eternity aren't you tried of people lying and deceiving from the white house down even in the church we are to love one another not much of that being shown have a good night bed time for old man

 

[Skullbone]

Y'all ever notice how pro gun control advocates are usually the most ignorant people on Earth concerning the very subject? It's uncanny.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Y'all ever notice how pro gun control advocates are usually the most ignorant people on Earth concerning the very subject? It's uncanny.

True. They tend to believe whatever they're told by the liberal media and anti-gun political establishment.

 

[StoVol]

Y'all ever notice how pro gun control advocates are usually the most ignorant people on Earth concerning the very subject? It's uncanny.

Lulz but what do u expect from an ideology that protects murderers from the death penalty yet sanctions the barbaric practice of killing babies

 

[NC_Orange]

Oh, I agree. Along with the IED's. But the point is somebody stocked them and there is every reason to believe it was through aliases used by other parties aligned with the cause.

OK, about weapons being too easy to access and/or too plentiful. Name one thing that the federal government does well. No hacking into, no thieving wasteful spending, no lying, whatever. There isn't anything. I trust my fellow Americans in combination with law enforcement to handle their affairs better than anything the feds do.

Amen brother.

 

[74volz]

True. They tend to believe whatever they're told by the liberal media and anti-gun political establishment.

And the pro gun advocates believes everything the NRA news and probably Fox News is pumping out. I'll call it even and leave it at that. Basically everyone is ignorant.

Fair enough?

 

[InVOLuntary]

And the pro gun advocates believes everything the NRA news and probably Fox News is pumping out. I'll call it even and leave it at that. Basically everyone is ignorant.

Fair enough?

Absolutely not. The NRA has said a number of times that they don't want people that shouldn't have guns to have them. Why is it the Pro 2nd amendment crowd are always the ones asked to compromise?

Also, I asked you to look at the NRA's magazine and look at the section "The Armed Citizen ". Your first response was you wouldn't believe anything that came from the NRA. This is despite that this section is simply excerpts from newspapers all over the country, zero editorial content.

 

[74volz]

Absolutely not. The NRA has said a number of times that they don't want people that shouldn't have guns to have them. Why is it the Pro 2nd amendment crowd are always the ones asked to compromise?

Also, I asked you to look at the NRA's magazine and look at the section "The Armed Citizen ". Your first response was you wouldn't believe anything that came from the NRA. This is despite that this section is simply excerpts from newspapers all over the country, zero editorial content.

Calm down. It was kind of a joke to end this discussion on guns. And call everyone ignorant from where they get their sources.

I looked up what you recommended and that was the conclusion I came to. Your news source and mine contradict everything. So what's the "real or true" news out there? You believe in what you believe in. I believe in what I believe in. Which will always cause lots of discussions where no one will be convinced or swayed by either side. Kinda makes it fun.

If the NRA doesn't want people to have guns that shouldn't have them, what steps are they taking to prevent that? It's obviously easy to get guns anywhere. Store, gun show, black market. Also, what is the Pro 2nd amendment crowd having to compromise all the time? Background checks?

 

[Fowdep]

Calm down. It was kind of a joke to end this discussion on guns. And call everyone ignorant from where they get their sources.

I looked up what you recommended and that was the conclusion I came to. Your news source and mine contradict everything. So what's the "real or true" news out there? You believe in what you believe in. I believe in what I believe in. Which will always cause lots of discussions where no one will be convinced or swayed by either side. Kinda makes it fun.

If the NRA doesn't want people to have guns that shouldn't have them, what steps are they taking to prevent that? It's obviously easy to get guns anywhere. Store, gun show, black market. Also, what is the Pro 2nd amendment crowd having to compromise all the time? Background checks?

The 2nd ammendment say we have a right to bear arms and it shall not be infringed but we have back ground checks, carry permits, and gun free zones. Those are the compromises.

 

[74volz]

The 2nd ammendment say we have a right to bear arms and it shall not be infringed but we have back ground checks, carry permits, and gun free zones. Those are the compromises.

Oh. So would y'all be happier if everyone could freely carry guns around anywhere like in the old west?

Those compromises don't sound too bad. Could be a lot worse. Like limitations on how many guns to own, maybe bullet pricing was outrageous and barely affordable, or owning one gun only. Just guessing.

If I was an gun advocate, I guess it'd upset me some. But you have your guns and doesn't sound too bad. Thanks for the info.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Calm down. It was kind of a joke to end this discussion on guns. And call everyone ignorant from where they get their sources.

I looked up what you recommended and that was the conclusion I came to. Your news source and mine contradict everything. So what's the "real or true" news out there? You believe in what you believe in. I believe in what I believe in. Which will always cause lots of discussions where no one will be convinced or swayed by either side. Kinda makes it fun.

If the NRA doesn't want people to have guns that shouldn't have them, what steps are they taking to prevent that? It's obviously easy to get guns anywhere. Store, gun show, black market. Also, what is the Pro 2nd amendment crowd having to compromise all the time? Background checks?

So all those storiesfrom newspapers from around the country, many of which are from liberal publications are all garbage, fabricated stories? Now maybe you can understand why you're not taken seriously here.

There is no reason for me to calm down. I'm about as relaxed as one can get lol.

As to the aquiring firearms through legal means, what more would you have than mandatory background checks. Admission to a psych ward for evaluation? You people make me laugh. You're ok with trampling over others rights ad long as it doesn't effect you. More people are killed by drunk drivers than guns, why don't we make everyone who drinks to be registered?