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orangeblood79 said:
Even Berry is a lock, imo. Barnett will need to pick up his production to be 1st team. Hurd might get an honorable mention or even 2nd team, now that Chubb is hurt if he goes crazy these last few games.

I don't know about Dobbs...he might be in the running but...I don't know.
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Having Vareen come along in the Bama game was the best thing that could have happened for Barnett. Not having Maggitt has allowed other teams to double and even triple team (along with holding) Barnett. But now they will have to contend with Vareen it should allow Barnett to go crazy (and still be help).
 
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tomq_123 said:
Having Vareen come along in the Bama game was the best thing that could have happened for Barnett. Not having Maggitt has allowed other teams to double and even triple team (along with holding) Barnett. But now they will have to contend with Vareen it should allow Barnett to go crazy (and still be help).
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I agree. It was great seeing Cody Vareen make some plays last week.
 
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SeanJean said:
JRM and Berry are the only chance at first team. If JRM isn't first team they should just stop even trying.

Second/Third team: Sutton, Hurd, maybe Dobbs, just because QB play is really bad in the SEC this year. Barnett isn't anywhere near All-SEC this year.
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Barnett is still in the running for the Hendricks award for best DE in the country. Yeah....he might not have eye popping stats from last year....but to say he nowhere near All- SEC is ridiculous. Barnett is a monster especially when he's not getting held.
 
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Please tell me your misspelling Vereen's name wrong on purpose to further emphasize drunk uncle Verne's ineptitude? I missed the implied blue font if that was indeed the case.
 
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Man, Chris Weatherd has really disappeared this season. Maybe he'll show up the last half run of games. Thought he'd be more of an impact player. Heard yesterday Doug Matthews say Bates hasn't grasped the defense, yet. It's why he's not playing on D, only special teams. He's got a few years left and the coaches will rely on him to contribute with the LB's.... Hope he gets it. He's got the talent.
 
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74volz said:
Man, Chris Weatherd has really disappeared this season. Maybe he'll show up the last half run of games. Thought he'd be more of an impact player. Heard yesterday Doug Matthews say Bates hasn't grasped the defense, yet. It's why he's not playing on D, only special teams. He's got a few years left and the coaches will rely on him to contribute with the LB's.... Hope he gets it. He's got the talent.
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Yea, it worries me about the staff's ability to identify JUCO talent. Especially since it seems like we are putting a lot our defensive eggs in a JUCO basket for the 2016 class.

Blair-bust
Weatherd-meh
Pearson-under-utilized
Riyadh Jones- bust after a freak medical thing

I guess Owen Williams has played well.
 
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volssam said:
Oh yeah. Not sure why I didn't put Hurd on the 2nd/3rd team discussion. I think that's a possibility. Fournette and Henry are above him for the honors at this time. And then you have someone like collins at Arkansas that is having a decent year as well.

And on Dobbs, the sec is just down this year with QBs. Prescott is probably the only one that would possibly place above Dobbs. The Allen QBs (Kyle and Brandon) might could get in the discussion
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Prescott might get it out of sheer recognition for the last few years. I honestly haven't watched enough football this year to have a qualified opinion on who's deserving and who's not.

That said, Dobbs definitely deserves to be in the discussion, I just don't know if he'll get it.

JRM and Evan Berry have the best shot. Evan is leading the country in return yards, last I heard, and JRM is up there in tackles for loss.
 
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74volz said:
Man, Chris Weatherd has really disappeared this season. Maybe he'll show up the last half run of games. Thought he'd be more of an impact player. Heard yesterday Doug Matthews say Bates hasn't grasped the defense, yet. It's why he's not playing on D, only special teams. He's got a few years left and the coaches will rely on him to contribute with the LB's.... Hope he gets it. He's got the talent.
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Weathered plays much more against spread teams and mobile QBs. Bet he plays more this week
 
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VolsnCards5 said:
Yea, it worries me about the staff's ability to identify JUCO talent. Especially since it seems like we are putting a lot our defensive eggs in a JUCO basket for the 2016 class.

Blair-bust
Weatherd-meh
Pearson-under-utilized
Riyadh Jones- bust after a freak medical thing

I guess Owen Williams has played well.
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Martin and Kamara? Also can't forget to put the infamous Woody Quinn in the bust category. It's deff been a 50/50 thing.
 
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Dust10 said:
Martin and Kamara? Also can't forget to put the infamous Woody Quinn in the bust category. It's deff been a 50/50 thing.
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How many programs get a 100% return on JUCO investments? :dunno:
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Barnett is still in the running for the Hendricks award for best DE in the country. Yeah....he might not have eye popping stats from last year....but to say he nowhere near All- SEC is ridiculous. Barnett is a monster especially when he's not getting held.
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Nobody said Barnett isn't talented. Of course he is. But he hasn't had a great year, and if the season ended today, he wouldn't be All-SEC. Other guys are more deserving. Simple as that.

And 100% yes, he gets held more than any player I think I've ever seen. It's insane.

And with all due respect, I've never heard of the Hendricks award in my life.
 
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tomq_123 said:
Having Vareen come along in the Bama game was the best thing that could have happened for Barnett. Not having Maggitt has allowed other teams to double and even triple team (along with holding) Barnett. But now they will have to contend with Vareen it should allow Barnett to go crazy (and still be help).
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Good point. I hope that wasn't a fluke for Vereen either. That was his best game as a Volunteer...and you would think that it's not either, considering he was going against Cam Robinson.

I've been waiting to see that from him since he was signed.
 
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Dust10 said:
Don't have any stats, but I'd guess our Juco return lines up pretty well with out return on HS talent.
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Seems under to me and recruiting Jc guys should have a higher return.

They Shouldn't be recruited unless they fill an immediate need
 
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SeanJean said:
Nobody said Barnett isn't talented. Of course he is. But he hasn't had a great year, and if the season ended today, he wouldn't be All-SEC. Other guys are more deserving. Simple as that.

And 100% yes, he gets held more than any player I think I've ever seen. It's insane.

And with all due respect, I've never heard of the Hendricks award in my life.
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I wouldn't say he hasn't had a good year. It's hard to have eye popping stats when you're consistently double teamed and held.
 
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