Von Pearson Update

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Volunteer08 said:
Not sure if this got buried too quickly, but it wasn't a big deal. I probably shouldn't have posted the contact information, but I also don't think it's harmful that people know who's office it is in the DA.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to stand and do nothing (Edmund Burke).. I may not know what to do, but I'm trying to do something. "Foolish" isn't what I've done, it's what you're not doing.
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How are you involved in the case, sir? And how would evil triumph if you did not take it upon yourself to spur (and invite others to spur) the DA, who has thousands of cases under their watch, each of which are as important to each victim/defendant as the next, to "hurry up and let Von Pearson play for the Big Damn Orange."

There are people whose job it is to make that call. Respectfully, I bet they would appreciate you allowing them to do their job without your "help."
 
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utvolpj said:
They don't do rape kits for indecent exposure
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They do if the allegation is rape, regardless of what the actual "act" was. Will always err on the side of caution when it comes to collecting evidence. Once physical evidence is gone, it's gone. And yes, I work in forensics.
 
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Volunteer08 said:
@utvolpj - I want to know not only as a UT fan, but just as regular citizen who is concerned about a young man.
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No, you're concerned about a player for your favorite football team and what the loss of his skills could do to the season. Don't try to sugar coat it since this is the first time you've ever made the call and likely the last

The white Knight act in this thread is ridiculous
 
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utvolpj said:
No, you're concerned about a player for your favorite football team and what the loss of his skills could do to the season. Don't try to sugar coat it since this is the first time you've ever made the call and likely the last

The white Knight act in this thread is ridiculous
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I'll admit it, I'm concerned about a player on my favorite football team:/

It's like how my dad explained the hole voting process. People vote for the person that they believe will benefit them the most. Everyone else's reasons are void to them. In this case what WE have on the line is a player for our team. If he did do it then so be it, let him go.

Think it's worth noting I don't think they should just let him off the hook, I think they should get on with their job tho.
 
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Volunteer08 said:
I'm not denying that since he's a UT football player that I have more affinity for his situation. Furthermore, I think his specific situation has brought some issues to light.

You're right...first time calling the DA to stand up for someone. So what?

Maybe we shouldn't be calling the DA. Maybe we should be calling media outlets to let them know that the fans want an update. We have questions we want answered.

@utvolpj - I want to know not only as a UT fan, but just as regular citizen who is concerned about a young man.
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Since you dont have any of the facts of the case, which those who are involved do, perhaps you might be standing on the wrong side....you have no clue as to the details of the case, as none of us do.

You are not entitled to an update, questions answered, or anything else really as a fan, no matter how strongly you are suggesting as such.
 
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JCLawyerVol said:
How are you involved in the case, sir? And how would evil triumph if you did not take it upon yourself to spur (and invite others to spy) the DA, who has thousands of cases under their watch, each of which are as important to each victim/defendant as the next, to "hurry up and let Von Pearson play for the Big Damn Orange."

There are people whose job it is to make that call. Respectfully, I bet they would appreciate you allowing them to do their job without your "help."
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You're right...we should be reaching out to the media instead. They can call the UT Admin and use their contacts to find out information.

Keep in mind...I'm not digging for them to move forward and spit out an answer. I'm asking why it's taking so long. Did you see the questions I asked Gary?
 
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The truth is that very few, if any, of the people on this forum would do more than say, "oh, what a shame" if this were happening to someone other than a UT football player.

I know that's what I would do. Let's face it. Crap happens all the time and is brought up in the news. We're used to it. People just get passionate about the issues when it affects them, or in this case, affects their enjoyment of a football game.
 
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JCLawyerVol said:
How are you involved in the case, sir? And how would evil triumph if you did not take it upon yourself to spur (and invite others to spy) the DA, who has thousands of cases under their watch, each of which are as important to each victim/defendant as the next, to "hurry up and let Von Pearson play for the Big Damn Orange."

There are people whose job it is to make that call. Respectfully, I bet they would appreciate you allowing them to do their job without your "help."
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He has that right. Why are you intent on taking away his right to question those in authority to get an update. Concerned citizens march everyday. Sometimes for noble causes, sometimes for foolish and trivial things. But the right to protest, assemble, and to raise questions is what makes the US so great.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
The truth is that very few, if any, of the people on this forum would do more than say, "oh, what a shame" if this were happening to someone other than a UT football player.

I know that's what I would do. Let's face it. Crap happens all the time and is brought up in the news. We're used to it. People just get passionate about the issues when it affects them, or in this case, affects their enjoyment of a football game.
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Don't make assumptions. Someone on here may work for The Innocence Project.
 
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utvolpj said:
No, you're concerned about a player for your favorite football team and what the loss of his skills could do to the season. Don't try to sugar coat it since this is the first time you've ever made the call and likely the last

The white Knight act in this thread is ridiculous
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Why does that matter? I've done countless good deed one time and never again - Habitat for Humanity, Feeding South Florida, feeding a random bum.

C'mon. Quit trying to size up my reasons for doing it and just high five me for helping someone out. At this point, who cares about football. Get the kid back in school.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Don't make assumptions. Someone on here may work for The Innocence Project.
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Fair enough. I'm just saying that we likely wouldn't see 190 pages of passionate posts if this happened to someone who wasn't a public figure or athlete.

It is my assumption that most people wouldn't think much about it after initially hearing about the incident. That's just my assumption, though. I could be completely wrong and if someone on here is truthfully passionate about these types of issues and involved in solving the problems associated with them, then I commend them
 
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advancedrescue27 said:
National spotlight? For some fans calling the DA? Hmmm, not sure I follow.

Funny how everyone gets on the forum and isn't happy with the lack of progress over months of waiting, but as soon as one man calls the DA to inquire people gets nervous.
I seriously doubt fans calling the DA will draw the national spotlight.
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Seriously?

You don't think an SEC school's fans mounting an effort calling a District Attorney's office to complain about an investigation of a football player wouldn't draw the interest of almost every large TV and Radio talk show in the country? During one of the biggest sports dead spots of the year?

Sports talk hosts and sports writers are lazy. That is hours upon hours of talking points with no effort. It doesn't matter what the facts are, it would be "crazy SEC fans calling gov't officials because they dared to go after a football player".

Not to mention the whole this is asinine. I'm all for government being held accountable and somewhat fearful of its citizens...but not because I think they're messing with my alma mater's football team.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
The truth is that very few, if any, of the people on this forum would do more than say, "oh, what a shame" if this were happening to someone other than a UT football player.

I know that's what I would do. Let's face it. Crap happens all the time and is brought up in the news. We're used to it. People just get passionate about the issues when it affects them, or in this case, affects their enjoyment of a football game.
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I must be one of the few.

I support the authorities going after criminals. It angers me to see crap like Ferguson where it stops being about the facts and starts being about someone's political agenda.

At the same time, I don't like seeing the authorities harass or torment people. If this had been my son (though I don't think he would have done anything close to that), the delay would have prevented him from doing an internship that would have prevented him from graduating on time and could have gotten him kicked out of his program.

So yeah... I get pretty hacked off when I hear about things like this happening to anyone.

The facts are pretty much known by now. There is no apparent justification for not giving an answer.

If they are holding this over his head to assure his testimony against AJ.... then that's just wrong in every way.
 
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Volunteer08 said:
Why does that matter? I've done countless good deed one time and never again - Habitat for Humanity, Feeding South Florida, feeding a random bum.

C'mon. Quit trying to size up my reasons for doing it and just high five me for helping someone out. At this point, who cares about football. Get the kid back in school.
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I commend you for doing something rather than sit there and be frustrated. Any effort put forward is bigger than the majority of us. One call to the DA isn't that big of a deal like most are acting.

I'll agree with many others tho, I believe the best possible effort we can put forwards getting the media behind it, or the calling the school. So be it that it bring media attention, that's the goal. Hell I think it was yesterday someone posted saying they were seeing on the bottom of ESPN, and not to mention the Nashville attention it's gained. Present what it is that's known to the public and see if they take off with it:/ maybe they won't do anything with it, maybe they will. But doing nothing about it rather than complain on a forum does nothing towards getting results.

I know if I were Von I'd hope that my supporters would be actively voicing their frustrations, when I can't(or unadvised) in the situation I were in. Let's remember he's possibly not going to be able to enroll at all very soon if nothing happens in the near future.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Seriously?

You don't think an SEC school's fans mounting an effort calling a District Attorney's office to complain about an investigation of a football player wouldn't draw the interest of almost every large TV and Radio talk show in the country? During one of the biggest sports dead spots of the year?

Sports talk hosts and sports writers are lazy. That is hours upon hours of talking points with no effort. It doesn't matter what the facts are, it would be "crazy SEC fans calling gov't officials because they dared to go after a football player".

Not to mention the whole this is asinine. I'm all for government being held accountable and somewhat fearful of its citizens...but not because I think they're messing with my alma mater's football team.
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Why? You don't know the guy who called. Maybe he would have called in a different situation but just knows about this one due to the publicity?


I would call if I were local. But if I knew the same was being done to someone with an academic scholarship I'd use whatever influence I had with that too.

IMO, any pressure that is brought here BECAUSE of the publicity could end up helping people in the same situation who cannot command the interest that VP does. If this forced public officials to take a look at the way this is being handled... maybe it doesn't happen to the next guy who none of us will ever know.


All of this assuming there's no basis for charges of course.
 
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I fed a bum once too. He didn't appreciate it, but that does not stop me from doing a good deed.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
Fair enough. I'm just saying that we likely wouldn't see 190 pages of passionate posts if this happened to someone who wasn't a public figure or athlete.

It is my assumption that most people wouldn't think much about it after initially hearing about the incident. That's just my assumption, though. I could be completely wrong and if someone on here is truthfully passionate about these types of issues and involved in solving the problems associated with them, then I commend them
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WallyBalls said:
Seriously?

You don't think an SEC school's fans mounting an effort calling a District Attorney's office to complain about an investigation of a football player wouldn't draw the interest of almost every large TV and Radio talk show in the country? During one of the biggest sports dead spots of the year?

Sports talk hosts and sports writers are lazy. That is hours upon hours of talking points with no effort. It doesn't matter what the facts are, it would be "crazy SEC fans calling gov't officials because they dared to go after a football player".

Not to mention the whole this is asinine. I'm all for government being held accountable and somewhat fearful of its citizens...but not because I think they're messing with my alma mater's football team.
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I just want to point something out - Are any of you familiar with Devon Still? The Bengals player whose daughter battled/battling cancer? Does the money raised for children's cancer research that Bengals fans contributed now become tarnished? Is that frowned upon that it took someone associated with a NFL team to bring to light that there's really not that much research done for children with cancer?

Why is it such a big deal?

Volation: "you can do the right thing, but don't even think about doing it for the wrong reasons." Who are you to say they're wrong.

If you don't like it then don't do anything, but don't try and bring me down.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Seriously?

You don't think an SEC school's fans mounting an effort calling a District Attorney's office to complain about an investigation of a football player wouldn't draw the interest of almost every large TV and Radio talk show in the country? During one of the biggest sports dead spots of the year?

Sports talk hosts and sports writers are lazy. That is hours upon hours of talking points with no effort. It doesn't matter what the facts are, it would be "crazy SEC fans calling gov't officials because they dared to go after a football player".

Not to mention the whole this is asinine. I'm all for government being held accountable and somewhat fearful of its citizens...but not because I think they're messing with my alma mater's football team.
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True that fans can draw the national spotlight if enough effort is put into it, and effort put in the right place. But one(or hand full) of calls to the DA will not result in that. What's the DA going to do, go to the media themselves and say look we have a fan or a few fans calling us?
 
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advancedrescue27 said:
True that fans can draw the national spotlight if enough effort is put into it, and effort put in the right place. But one(or hand full) of calls to the DA will not result in that. What's the DA going to do, go to the media themselves and say look we have a fan or a few fans calling us?
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Elected officials always respond to public complaints if they come from the right people, at the right time, or in the right volume. Most fear/respect the voter.

If enough people complain then there will be a response. I do not know what the response might be... but there will be one.
 
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It's my understanding from earlier in the thread that the DA has just received the case. I believe it was the investigation that took longer than usual. I'm not sure I understand how questioning the DA's office, who are still within their normal time frame, is helpful.
 
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chargervol said:
It's my understanding from earlier in the thread that the DA has just received the case. I believe it was the investigation that took longer than usual. I'm not sure I understand how questioning the DA's office, who are still within their normal time frame, is helpful.
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I think we should get a rally going to leave a bunch of bags of flaming poop on the DA's front porch...................
 
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