Von Pearson Update

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Volview said:
If he ended up red shirted...I would have to believe he would still come back for his SR year if cleared. Just to add value to his NFL stock.
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If he wants anything more than a courtesy workout. NFL teams won't even give him that without a legal conclusion. No way they draft him with his current numbers either.
 
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johnrlansford said:
He hasn't been charge, so there is no trial. You can't get a speedy trial if there is no trial. the university is just covering their butts so that it shows they did everything they could do before reinstating him.
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It's not even that simple. The right to a speedy trial can only be asserted affirmatively. In other words, you have to actually ask for a speedy trial, not just be charged with a crime.

I can think of plenty of reasons why asking for a speedy trial is a bad idea. If you're not in jail, I would suggest that insisting on a speedy trial is just asking for a chance to go to jail, and now.
 
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1. Are we the only SEC team that suspends on accusations?

2. Is our automatic accusation suspension a CBJ policy or a UT administration policy?

3. If this accusation had not become public, would Pearson still have been suspended?
 
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Voltillyafall said:
There is no right to a speedy investigation. However, there are elections, and if the mayor can't appoint a police chief who is capable of conducting an investigation in a timely manner the voters should make their sentiments known.

Similarly, if the District Attorney's office can't get off the pot and decide whether to charge someone or not, the voters should express their displeasure.
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From a purely political stand point, it would be suicide to be seen as rushing a sex crime investigation. Secondarily, it would be of no benefit to the long term goals of the football program.

You should read Benedict's "The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big Time College Football." Not only is UT mentioned predominately in it's own chapter, but multiple chapters are devoted to sex crimes and athletes. The narrative is pretty even handed, told from both sides of the situation and from a third perspective of the prosecutors of these cases.

Some interesting snippets:

"1) A criminal complaint against an...athlete for sexual assault is far more likely to result in arrest and an indictment (than the national average). 2) Athletes are significantly less likely to be convicted (than the national average)."

and

"As a result [of legal defense teams that athletes, even college athletes are provided] prosecutors are much less likely to charge an accused athlete in a date rape case unless the evidence and the accuser are rock solid."

but

"...jurors are reluctant to convict athletes of sexual assault when the accuser has willingly gone to a player's bedroom or otherwise put herself in a compromising situation."

When interviewed about this phenomenon, some jurors believed that "the athletes had been sufficiently punished for the crime when they lost the opportunity to play college football."

Here is the most chilling finding of all, "male student-athletes made up just 3 percent of the male student population yet were responsible for more than 19 percent of the reported sexual assaults on campus."
 
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daj2576 said:
From a purely political stand point, it would be suicide to be seen as rushing a sex crime investigation. Secondarily, it would be of no benefit to the long term goals of the football program.

You should read Benedict's "The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big Time College Football." Not only is UT mentioned predominately in it's own chapter, but multiple chapters are devoted to sex crimes and athletes. The narrative is pretty even handed, told from both sides of the situation and from a third perspective of the prosecutors of these cases.

Some interesting snippets:

"1) A criminal complaint against an...athlete for sexual assault is far more likely to result in arrest and an indictment (than the national average). 2) Athletes are significantly less likely to be convicted (than the national average)."

and

"As a result [of legal defense teams that athletes, even college athletes are provided] prosecutors are much less likely to charge an accused athlete in a date rape case unless the evidence and the accuser are rock solid."

but

"...jurors are reluctant to convict athletes of sexual assault when the accuser has willingly gone to a player's bedroom or otherwise put herself in a compromising situation."

When interviewed about this phenomenon, some jurors believed that "the athletes had been sufficiently punished for the crime when they lost the opportunity to play college football."

Here is the most chilling finding of all, "male student-athletes made up just 3 percent of the male student population yet were responsible for more than 19 percent of the reported sexual assaults on campus."
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That's a great book.
 
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daj2576 said:
From a purely political stand point, it would be suicide to be seen as rushing a sex crime investigation. Secondarily, it would be of no benefit to the long term goals of the football program.

You should read Benedict's "The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big Time College Football." Not only is UT mentioned predominately in it's own chapter, but multiple chapters are devoted to sex crimes and athletes. The narrative is pretty even handed, told from both sides of the situation and from a third perspective of the prosecutors of these cases.

Some interesting snippets:

"1) A criminal complaint against an...athlete for sexual assault is far more likely to result in arrest and an indictment (than the national average). 2) Athletes are significantly less likely to be convicted (than the national average)."

and

"As a result [of legal defense teams that athletes, even college athletes are provided] prosecutors are much less likely to charge an accused athlete in a date rape case unless the evidence and the accuser are rock solid."

but

"...jurors are reluctant to convict athletes of sexual assault when the accuser has willingly gone to a player's bedroom or otherwise put herself in a compromising situation."

When interviewed about this phenomenon, some jurors believed that "the athletes had been sufficiently punished for the crime when they lost the opportunity to play college football."

Here is the most chilling finding of all, "male student-athletes made up just 3 percent of the male student population yet were responsible for more than 19 percent of the reported sexual assaults on campus."
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Very interesting snippets...Now a jury convicted Mike Tyson of rape, when she willingly went to his room at 3 in the morning.
 
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daj2576 said:
There are parts that blew my mind, but it tended to wear me out with the Saban and Leach narratives. I kept thinking that there have to be other interesting stories in college football besides these guys.
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Yeah, the Saban stuff got on my nerves a little bit but I enjoyed the Leach stories quite a bit. He's just an interesting guy with an interesting story.
 
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Volngeorgia said:
1. Are we the only SEC team that suspends on accusations?

2. Is our automatic accusation suspension a CBJ policy or a UT administration policy?

3. If this accusation had not become public, would Pearson still have been suspended?
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1. No
2. CBJ - Pearson is still a student, just suspended from team activities.
3. Yes. Lane was suspended last spring while he was being investigated. I believe he was reinstated before the reason for the suspension became common knowledge.
 
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Kristy* said:
1. No
2. CBJ - Pearson is still a student, just suspended from team activities.
3. Yes. Lane was suspended last spring while he was being investigated. I believe he was reinstated before the reason for the suspension became common knowledge.
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Thanx.
On number one, do you know which schools?
 
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Volngeorgia said:
1. Are we the only SEC team that suspends on accusations?

2. Is our automatic accusation suspension a CBJ policy or a UT administration policy?

3. If this accusation had not become public, would Pearson still have been suspended?
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Alabama and Georgia have both dismissed players this off season for accusations of physical abuse. each school has their own policies
 
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Semi update:

Someone on VQ mentioned that he saw Pearson and Malik Foreman cliff jumping near Knoxville on Saturday. The guy talked to Pearson and found out that Pearson received some big news regarding his case on Friday that will clear his name and that the entire team is aware of it as well.

To add to this, Pearson posted a cryptic tweet on July 24 (Friday) that just said "Colossal". Maybe referring to the news? Not much of an official update, but time is running out and I think that if his name gets cleared, it will happen in the next 7 days.
 
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Aesius said:
Semi update:

Someone on VQ mentioned that he saw Pearson and Malik Foreman cliff jumping near Knoxville on Saturday. The guy talked to Pearson and found out that Pearson received some big news regarding his case on Friday that will clear his name and that the entire team is aware of it as well.

To add to this, Pearson posted a cryptic tweet on July 24 (Friday) that just said "Colossal". Maybe referring to the news? Not much of an official update, but time is running out and I think that if his name gets cleared, it will happen in the next 7 days.
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Not the news that I wanted, but possibly true news is better than the he cant have sex ever debate that tends to happen on here.
 
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Aesius said:
Semi update:

Someone on VQ mentioned that he saw Pearson and Malik Foreman cliff jumping near Knoxville on Saturday. The guy talked to Pearson and found out that Pearson received some big news regarding his case on Friday that will clear his name and that the entire team is aware of it as well.

To add to this, Pearson posted a cryptic tweet on July 24 (Friday) that just said "Colossal". Maybe referring to the news? Not much of an official update, but time is running out and I think that if his name gets cleared, it will happen in the next 7 days.
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I guess you didn't get the memo. You aren't allowed to put updates in this thread. Haha
I'll let it slide this time. Thanks for the info! Hope it turns out to be true.
 
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Voltillyafall said:
I wish I were a lawyer and lived in East Tennessee.

Surely there is at least on Law School Graduate from the University of Tennessee who sees the injustice in this situation, and has the nads to do something about it. It is against the spirit and specific wording of the state and federal constitutions to allow Von Pearson to slowly twist in the wind like this.

If it's not a constitutional matter, fundamental fairness dictates that the young man be allowed to get on with his life knowing whether he will be charged with a crime or not. The damn Knoxville police may not like it, but they MUST be made to put up or shut up. The same goes for the District Attorney's office. Charge the kid so he can go to trial and prove his innocence, or cut him loose. They should NOT be allowed to HANG A DARK CLOUD OVER HIS HEAD INDEFINITELY. PLEASE...WILL A LAWYER STEP UP!!!!!!
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If he weren't a football player, nobody would know about the investigation. Are you really insinuating that the police should speed up investigations simply because it's a football player? He hasn't been arrested, therefore speedy trial rights haven't attached.
 
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Aesius said:
Semi update:

Someone on VQ mentioned that he saw Pearson and Malik Foreman cliff jumping near Knoxville on Saturday. The guy talked to Pearson and found out that Pearson received some big news regarding his case on Friday that will clear his name and that the entire team is aware of it as well.

To add to this, Pearson posted a cryptic tweet on July 24 (Friday) that just said "Colossal". Maybe referring to the news? Not much of an official update, but time is running out and I think that if his name gets cleared, it will happen in the next 7 days.
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Colossal is the name of a song by Future.
 
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