Cheating Under Rick Barnes

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AuntieDee said:
Yes it is very inflammatory. And that's the point I've been making. Everywhere you look on the WWW it's out there. Just Google Ricky Barnes' name. We can say all day that he didn't have anything to do with it but the fact remains that its before the public and, as usual, the public makes a mountain out of a molehill.

The first line in this articles reads:"Somebody check with the Weather Channel and see if that dark cloud hanging over Tennessee's basketball program is ever going to lift."

The way to get this dark cloud lifted is to have a "KICK BUTT" Basketball season! #GBO! :clapping:
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The dark cloud was lifted when we hired Barnes.
 
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This story is in its infancy and there's not much to it; but I'm not sure there's nothing to worry about.

You keep seeing folks comparing the situation to UNC and saying it's nothing like that. Well, it is and it isn't.

This case doesn't seem to be even remotely as big as the UNC case; but the similarity is with the coaches.

People seem to think if Barnes didn't know he'll be exonerated; except that's not how it works with the NCAA... not knowing is how they get charged with failure to monitor. Roy Williams supposedly didn't know, either; but so far that isn't letting anyone off the hook... although UNC is giving him a contract extension right now despite that.

According to the NCAA, coaches SHOULD know about everything related to their athletes, especially their academics and eligibility. Given the RB quotes about player eligibility posted earlier in this thread, it's hard to imagine he wouldn't know every detail about his players' academic standing or allegations of cheating; but even if he didn't it doesn't automatically absolve him, because the NCAA will assert that he should have.

And of course Texas is trying to excuse him; they're tied at the hip... whatever sticks to one sticks to the other.

All that said, I still don't think much, if anything, will come of it. As I pointed out with UNC, the coach not knowing may not impress the NCAA, but it IS obviously still important to the university because they're not only sticking with him, but extending his contract... even if Texas gets some kind of penalty I suspect Hart will stick by Barnes because of his lack of involvement.
 
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I have not taken stock in David Climer since he was absolutely positive Peyton was definitely turning Pro after his junior season...He really is a hack
 
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He is a columnist, not necessary a sports writer or a journalist that is concerned with the who, what, when, and where or the score since he is mostly concerned with an idea not the results. Pardon the Interruption has two talking heads that also write for the Washington Post. Michael Wilbon is a reporter who cover events and then writes a report on what happened. Tony Kornheiser is a columnist who might cover the same event, but then write a column on the social the social aspects of said event, not necessarily the facts. That said David Climer is a hack of epic proportions
 
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Otis07 said:
He is a columnist, not necessary a sports writer or a journalist that is concerned with the who, what, when, and where or the score since he is mostly concerned with an idea not the results. Pardon the Interruption has two talking heads that also write for the Washington Post. Michael Wilbon is a reporter who cover events and then writes a report on what happened. Tony Kornheiser is a columnist who might cover the same event, but then write a column on the social the social aspects of said event, not necessarily the facts. That said David Climer is a hack of epic proportions
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lol Thank you for enlightening me.
 
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David Climer and Paul Finebum both graduated from The University of Tennessee. This is all that one needs to know!

Both seem to be UT haters.
 
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AuntieDee said:
lol Thank you for enlightening me.
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Here's your REAL enlightenment: if they say something negative, everyone thinks the journalists are POS scum of the earth. If they say something positive, everyone thinks we're going to the Final 4.

Happens. Every. Time.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Here's your REAL enlightenment: if they say something negative, everyone thinks the journalists are POS scum of the earth. If they say something positive, everyone thinks we're going to the Final 4.

Happens. Every. Time.
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I haven't seen much positive posted about Climer or the Tennessean in my time on the board. I get what you are saying as ESPN is a perfect example, but don't think it fits here. Recently Climer and The Tennesseean ran consecutive articles about the alleged rapes at UT etc...then a report comes out about how Vanderbilt had more rapes in the last year than any other college in Tennessee, not a word from Climer or the Tennessean.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Here's your REAL enlightenment: if they say something negative, everyone thinks the journalists are POS scum of the earth. If they say something positive, everyone thinks we're going to the Final 4.

Happens. Every. Time.
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Not Climer; he's a classic kick 'em when you're down/jump on your bandwagon when you're good.

The funny part about him is when he is on the Plaster show (or he used to be), he was actually pretty reasonable when he discussed things at length.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Here's your REAL enlightenment: if they say something negative, everyone thinks the journalists are POS scum of the earth. If they say something positive, everyone thinks we're going to the Final 4.

Happens. Every. Time.
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From a national, generic perspective (Dick Vitale, Jay Bilas, etc.), you're right. From a local, intensive perspective (Climer as a great example), that doesn't really apply IMO.
 
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@BDavisAAS: Patterson insists that former men's coach Rick Barnes' departure "had nothing to do with academics." Barnes simply didn't win enough.
 
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865dude said:
@BDavisAAS: Patterson insists that former men's coach Rick Barnes' departure "had nothing to do with academics." Barnes simply didn't win enough.
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The problem is regardless of what Coach Barnes knew or didn't know the inclination of Texas will be to lay the blame on him for whatever is found. That's just what colleges do when the coach is no longer their employee. That's why we will still have a cloud over us until this thing gets finished.
 
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wtorange said:
The problem is regardless of what Coach Barnes knew or didn't know the inclination of Texas will be to lay the blame on him for whatever is found. That's just what colleges do when the coach is no longer their employee. That's why we will still have a cloud over us until this thing gets finished.
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All the stuff I've seen they haven't even slightly blamed him yet
 
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wtorange said:
The problem is regardless of what Coach Barnes knew or didn't know the inclination of Texas will be to lay the blame on him for whatever is found. That's just what colleges do when the coach is no longer their employee. That's why we will still have a cloud over us until this thing gets finished.
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You must not have read my earlier posts where I mentioned this exact same thing. Man you'd better watch what you say. These folks ain't hearing that. :birgits_giggle:
 
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wtorange said:
The problem is regardless of what Coach Barnes knew or didn't know the inclination of Texas will be to lay the blame on him for whatever is found. That's just what colleges do when the coach is no longer their employee. That's why we will still have a cloud over us until this thing gets finished.
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AuntieDee said:
You must not have read my earlier posts where I mentioned this exact same thing. Man you'd better watch what you say. These folks ain't hearing that. :birgits_giggle:
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Since you agree with him, could you show us a quote where Texas has said that it's Rick's fault?
 
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