ISIS Takes Control of Mosul

[SpaceCoastVol]

It's all good.

And not nuclear like Pravda wants you to believe.

My Russian is pretty rusty but they have a saying "Mi hotitim Mir" (It doesn't translate well to arabic letters) But it means 'We want peace'. Interestingly enough it also means 'We want the world'. Nice when your language will allow you to have a double entendre like that isn't it?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Isolationism doesn't work.

Nonintervention... and how do we know it doesn't work if we've never tried it?

And I assume this works... arming the so-called "enemy"?

ISIS Acquired 2,300 Humvee armoured vehicles in Mosul: PM

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Nonintervention... and how do we know it doesn't work if we've never tried it?

And I assume this works... arming the so-called "enemy"?

ISIS Acquired 2,300 Humvee armoured vehicles in Mosul: PM

In a sense I can agree with you. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if gas went to $5 or $6/gallon, or iPhones cost $1000. Since I am not a consumer, those issues are meaningless to me.

 

[LouderVol]

Nonintervention... and how do we know it doesn't work if we've never tried it?

And I assume this works... arming the so-called "enemy"?

ISIS Acquired 2,300 Humvee armoured vehicles in Mosul: PM

i can only think of one country in the world that is truly this way, Switzerland. I would say some of Nepal and other smaller nations would fall under that category but honestly i don't know enough about them to speak from a point of fact. the reasons it works is: 1. They are small. 2. they have a long history of minding their own business. 3. At least with Switzerland they militarized to the point where no one wants to mess with them on their home turf (how they started being neutral). 4. and lastly and most importantly because there is someone to step up and take control of the situation. the US is willing to deal with the world's problems, right or wrong we do it. that allows these smaller nations to go on being peaceful. if you want to point out other nations being peaceful i guarantee it has a whole lot of something to do with the US being the big kid on the block and keeping the other bullies in check. you remove the US and the world goes back to **** with bigger and bigger wars every generation.

 

[Velo Vol]

Great.

Christian beheads ISIS fighter in Syria: monitor

Bring on the crusades.

 

[theFallGuy]

Great.

Christian beheads ISIS fighter in Syria: monitor

Bring on the crusades.

I'll try to shed a tear

 

[hndog609]

In a sense I can agree with you. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if gas went to $5 or $6/gallon, or iPhones cost $1000. Since I am not a consumer, those issues are meaningless to me.

You jack up the cost of fuel that much and cost of practically everything else goes up.

 

[volprof]

i can only think of one country in the world that is truly this way, Switzerland. I would say some of Nepal and other smaller nations would fall under that category but honestly i don't know enough about them to speak from a point of fact. the reasons it works is: 1. They are small. 2. they have a long history of minding their own business. 3. At least with Switzerland they militarized to the point where no one wants to mess with them on their home turf (how they started being neutral). 4. and lastly and most importantly because there is someone to step up and take control of the situation. the US is willing to deal with the world's problems, right or wrong we do it. that allows these smaller nations to go on being peaceful. if you want to point out other nations being peaceful i guarantee it has a whole lot of something to do with the US being the big kid on the block and keeping the other bullies in check. you remove the US and the world goes back to **** with bigger and bigger wars every generation.

I have no respect for "neutral" nations that sit and watch as the world burns (in some shape or form) while some one else has to do something about it.

History will forget these small men and women in due time.

 

[LouderVol]

Great.

Christian beheads ISIS fighter in Syria: monitor

Bring on the crusades.

never a good idea to use the enemy's methods against them. becomes real difficult to tell friend from foe afterwards.

 

[volprof]

never a good idea to use the enemy's methods against them. becomes real difficult to tell friend from foe afterwards.

If the world's religious fundamentalists, radicals, literalists (whatever fancy word you want to call them, although I usually find that "****head" works quite nicely), whether they be of Father Abraham's tree or of a Far East of Eden variety or of something I've never even heard about, could all just chop off each other's heads to the last man or woman (who could then just jump off a cliff), it would significantly abridge volprof's "Pain in the Ass" file.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You jack up the cost of fuel that much and cost of practically everything else goes up.

Precisely. Non intervention = isolationism. Great idea.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Great.

Christian beheads ISIS fighter in Syria: monitor

Bring on the crusades.

Sweet. I hope they used a dull knife.

Interesting comment about the crusades though. Irrelevant, but interesting. After all, this is not about religious beliefs, but about egregious murderers being dealt with on their own terms.

 

[LouderVol]

Sweet. I hope they used a dull knife.

Interesting comment about the crusades though. Irrelevant, but interesting. After all, this is not about religious beliefs, but about egregious murderers being dealt with on their own terms.

the first crusade had nothing to do with religion either. The muslims in charge allowed all faiths to worship in Jerusalem and kept the peace very well. after Jerusalem fell and the Christians butchered all the Muslims the Christians made it about their religion being supreme, or the only religion with real claim to the land. the crusades really ended up being a land grab operation and a way to get rid of pesky elements in their homeland.

 

[theFallGuy]

the first crusade had nothing to do with religion either. The muslims in charge allowed all faiths to worship in Jerusalem and kept the peace very well. after Jerusalem fell and the Christians butchered all the Muslims the Christians made it about their religion being supreme, or the only religion with real claim to the land. the crusades really ended up being a land grab operation and a way to get rid of pesky elements in their homeland.

632—634 Under the Caliphate of Abu Bakr the Muslim Crusaders reconquer and sometimes conquer for the first time the polytheists of Arabia. These Arab polytheists had to convert to Islam or die. They did not have the choice of remaining in their faith and paying a tax. Islam does not allow for religious freedom.

633 The Muslim Crusaders, led by Khalid al—Walid, a superior but bloodthirsty military commander, whom Muhammad nicknamed the Sword of Allah for his ferocity in battle (Tabari, 8:158 / 1616—17), conquer the city of Ullays along the Euphrates River (in today's Iraq). Khalid captures and beheads so many that a nearby canal, into which the blood flowed, was called Blood Canal (Tabari 11:24 / 2034—35).

634 At the Battle of Yarmuk in Syria the Muslim Crusaders defeat the Byzantines. Today Osama bin Laden draws inspiration from the defeat, and especially from an anecdote about Khalid al—Walid. An unnamed Muslim remarks: 'The Romans are so numerous and the Muslims so few.' To this Khalid retorts: 'How few are the Romans, and how many the Muslims! Armies become numerous only with victory and few only with defeat, not by the number of men. By God, I would love it . . . if the enemy were twice as many' (Tabari, 11:94 / 2095)


634—644 The Caliphate of Umar ibn al—Khattab, who is regarded as particularly brutal.

635 Muslim Crusaders besiege and conquer of Damascus

636 Muslim Crusaders defeat Byzantines decisively at Battle of Yarmuk.

637 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq at the Battle of al—Qadisiyyah (some date it in 635 or 636)

638 Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.

638—650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.

639—642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.

641 Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.

643—707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.

644 Caliph Umar is assassinated by a Persian prisoner of war; Uthman ibn Affan is elected third Caliph, who is regarded by many Muslims as gentler than Umar.

644—650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.

656 Caliph Uthman is assassinated by disgruntled Muslim soldiers; Ali ibn Abi Talib, son—in—law and cousin to Muhammad, who married the prophet's daughter Fatima through his first wife Khadija, is set up as Caliph.

656 Battle of the Camel, in which Aisha, Muhammad's wife, leads a rebellion against Ali for not avenging Uthman's assassination. Ali's partisans win.

657 Battle of Siffin between Ali and Muslim governor of Jerusalem, arbitration goes against Ali

661 Murder of Ali by an extremist; Ali's supporters acclaim his son Hasan as next Caliph, but he comes to an agreement with Muawiyyah I and retires to Medina.

661—680 the Caliphate of Muawiyyah I. He founds Umayyid dynasty and moves capital from Medina to Damascus

673—678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire

680 Massacre of Hussein (Muhammad's grandson), his family, and his supporters in Karbala, Iraq.

691 Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after Muhammad's death.

705 Abd al—Malik restores Umayyad rule.

710—713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.

711—713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus. This article recounts how Muslims today still grieve over their expulsion 700 years later. They seem to believe that the land belonged to them in the first place.

719 Cordova, Spain, becomes seat of Arab governor

732 The Muslim Crusaders stopped at the Battle of Poitiers; that is, Franks (France) halt Arab advance

749 The Abbasids conquer Kufah and overthrow Umayyids

756 Foundation of Umayyid amirate in Cordova, Spain, setting up an independent kingdom from Abbasids

762 Foundation of Baghdad

785 Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova

789 Rise of Idrisid amirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; foundation of Fez; Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.

800 Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia

807 Caliph Harun al—Rashid orders the destruction of non—Muslim prayer houses and of the church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem

809 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy

813 Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country

831 Muslim Crusaders capture Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy

850 Caliph al—Matawakkil orders the destruction of non—Muslim houses of prayer

855 Revolt of the Christians of Hims (Syria)

837—901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France

869—883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq

909 Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily, Sardinia

928—969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964) and Tarsus (969)

937 The Ikhshid, a particularly harsh Muslim ruler, writes to Emperor Romanus, boasting of his control over the holy places

937 The Church of the Resurrection (known as Church of Holy Sepulcher in Latin West) is burned down by Muslims; more churches in Jerusalem are attacked

960 Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam

966 Anti—Christian riots in Jerusalem

969 Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo

c. 970 Seljuks enter conquered Islamic territories from the East

973 Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids

1003 First persecutions by al—Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed

1009 Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al—Hakim (see 937)

1012 Beginning of al—Hakim's oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians

1015 Earthquake in Palestine; the dome of the Dome of the Rock collapses

1031 Collapse of Umayyid Caliphate and establishment of 15 minor independent dynasties throughout Muslim Andalus

1048 Reconstruction of the Church of the Resurrection completed

1050 Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (aka Murabitun) are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.

1055 Seljuk Prince Tughrul enters Baghdad, consolidation of the Seljuk Sultanate

1055 Confiscation of property of Church of the Resurrection

1071 Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy much of Anatolia

1071 Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine

1073 Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)

1075 Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia

1076 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana

1085 Toledo is taken back by Christian armies

1086 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca

1090—1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and Balearic Islands

1094 Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against Seljuk invasions of his territory; Seljuks are Muslim Turkish family of eastern origins; see 970

1095 Pope Urban II preaches first Crusade; they capture Jerusalem in 1099

So it is only after all of the Islamic aggressive invasions that Western Christendom launches its first Crusades.

 

[LouderVol]

632—634 Under the Caliphate of Abu Bakr the Muslim Crusaders reconquer and sometimes conquer for the first time the polytheists of Arabia. These Arab polytheists had to convert to Islam or die. They did not have the choice of remaining in their faith and paying a tax. Islam does not allow for religious freedom.

633 The Muslim Crusaders, led by Khalid al—Walid, a superior but bloodthirsty military commander, whom Muhammad nicknamed the Sword of Allah for his ferocity in battle (Tabari, 8:158 / 1616—17), conquer the city of Ullays along the Euphrates River (in today's Iraq). Khalid captures and beheads so many that a nearby canal, into which the blood flowed, was called Blood Canal (Tabari 11:24 / 2034—35).

634 At the Battle of Yarmuk in Syria the Muslim Crusaders defeat the Byzantines. Today Osama bin Laden draws inspiration from the defeat, and especially from an anecdote about Khalid al—Walid. An unnamed Muslim remarks: 'The Romans are so numerous and the Muslims so few.' To this Khalid retorts: 'How few are the Romans, and how many the Muslims! Armies become numerous only with victory and few only with defeat, not by the number of men. By God, I would love it . . . if the enemy were twice as many' (Tabari, 11:94 / 2095)


634—644 The Caliphate of Umar ibn al—Khattab, who is regarded as particularly brutal.

635 Muslim Crusaders besiege and conquer of Damascus

636 Muslim Crusaders defeat Byzantines decisively at Battle of Yarmuk.

637 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq at the Battle of al—Qadisiyyah (some date it in 635 or 636)

638 Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.

638—650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.

639—642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.

641 Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.

643—707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.

644 Caliph Umar is assassinated by a Persian prisoner of war; Uthman ibn Affan is elected third Caliph, who is regarded by many Muslims as gentler than Umar.

644—650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.

656 Caliph Uthman is assassinated by disgruntled Muslim soldiers; Ali ibn Abi Talib, son—in—law and cousin to Muhammad, who married the prophet's daughter Fatima through his first wife Khadija, is set up as Caliph.

656 Battle of the Camel, in which Aisha, Muhammad's wife, leads a rebellion against Ali for not avenging Uthman's assassination. Ali's partisans win.

657 Battle of Siffin between Ali and Muslim governor of Jerusalem, arbitration goes against Ali

661 Murder of Ali by an extremist; Ali's supporters acclaim his son Hasan as next Caliph, but he comes to an agreement with Muawiyyah I and retires to Medina.

661—680 the Caliphate of Muawiyyah I. He founds Umayyid dynasty and moves capital from Medina to Damascus

673—678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire

680 Massacre of Hussein (Muhammad's grandson), his family, and his supporters in Karbala, Iraq.

691 Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after Muhammad's death.

705 Abd al—Malik restores Umayyad rule.

710—713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.

711—713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus. This article recounts how Muslims today still grieve over their expulsion 700 years later. They seem to believe that the land belonged to them in the first place.

719 Cordova, Spain, becomes seat of Arab governor

732 The Muslim Crusaders stopped at the Battle of Poitiers; that is, Franks (France) halt Arab advance

749 The Abbasids conquer Kufah and overthrow Umayyids

756 Foundation of Umayyid amirate in Cordova, Spain, setting up an independent kingdom from Abbasids

762 Foundation of Baghdad

785 Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova

789 Rise of Idrisid amirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; foundation of Fez; Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.

800 Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia

807 Caliph Harun al—Rashid orders the destruction of non—Muslim prayer houses and of the church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem

809 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy

813 Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country

831 Muslim Crusaders capture Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy

850 Caliph al—Matawakkil orders the destruction of non—Muslim houses of prayer

855 Revolt of the Christians of Hims (Syria)

837—901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France

869—883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq

909 Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily, Sardinia

928—969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964) and Tarsus (969)

937 The Ikhshid, a particularly harsh Muslim ruler, writes to Emperor Romanus, boasting of his control over the holy places

937 The Church of the Resurrection (known as Church of Holy Sepulcher in Latin West) is burned down by Muslims; more churches in Jerusalem are attacked

960 Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam

966 Anti—Christian riots in Jerusalem

969 Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo

c. 970 Seljuks enter conquered Islamic territories from the East

973 Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids

1003 First persecutions by al—Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed

1009 Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al—Hakim (see 937)

1012 Beginning of al—Hakim's oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians

1015 Earthquake in Palestine; the dome of the Dome of the Rock collapses

1031 Collapse of Umayyid Caliphate and establishment of 15 minor independent dynasties throughout Muslim Andalus

1048 Reconstruction of the Church of the Resurrection completed

1050 Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (aka Murabitun) are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.

1055 Seljuk Prince Tughrul enters Baghdad, consolidation of the Seljuk Sultanate

1055 Confiscation of property of Church of the Resurrection

1071 Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy much of Anatolia

1071 Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine

1073 Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)

1075 Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia

1076 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana

1085 Toledo is taken back by Christian armies

1086 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca

1090—1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and Balearic Islands

1094 Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against Seljuk invasions of his territory; Seljuks are Muslim Turkish family of eastern origins; see 970

1095 Pope Urban II preaches first Crusade; they capture Jerusalem in 1099

So it is only after all of the Islamic aggressive invasions that Western Christendom launches its first Crusades.

they responded to an military invasion not the religion itself. nothing in the christian faith was in danger. and at the time the Byzantine Empire had completely separated from what we know recognize as Roman Catholics. so no the Europeans were not responding to a religious crisis (of their own). and again even though they fell under Islamic rule Christians, Jews and others were, generally, allowed to function un-prohibited. the first call for a crusade was the Byzantine Emperor asking the Pope for a few hundred knights to fight in Turkey, not Jerusalem.

 

[Pacer92]

I'm sure it'll be dismissed by most because it's from global research, but this article provides a professional analysis of the bomb possibilities used on Yemen...

Possible Tactical Nuclear Strike (Neutron Bomb) in Yemen? | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

 

[LouderVol]

I'm sure it'll be dismissed by most because it's from global research, but this article provides a professional analysis of the bomb possibilities used on Yemen...

Possible Tactical Nuclear Strike (Neutron Bomb) in Yemen? | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

it provides one possible explanation, not really an analysis. it just provides one possibility. the use of a FAE or anything else is not contemplated besides a MOAB. even then the article makes it sound like nuclear weapons are the only ones that produce a mushroom cloud, which our military brethren here have told us is not true.

 

[MG1968]

it provides one possible explanation, not really an analysis. it just provides one possibility. the use of a FAE or anything else is not contemplated besides a MOAB. even then the article makes it sound like nuclear weapons are the only ones that produce a mushroom cloud, which our military brethren here have told us is not true.

you can produce a mushroom cloud in your backyard with gasoline and a match

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUPIDVMl8XM[/youtube]

 

[Grand Vol]

I'm sure it'll be dismissed by most because it's from global research, but this article provides a professional analysis of the bomb possibilities used on Yemen...

Possible Tactical Nuclear Strike (Neutron Bomb) in Yemen? | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

It's dismissed because the author, one Michel Chossudovsky, is a regular conspiracy theorist that makes some outlandish claims.

Has nothing to do with where it's from, rather who writes it.

 

[Pacer92]

it provides one possible explanation, not really an analysis. it just provides one possibility. the use of a FAE or anything else is not contemplated besides a MOAB. even then the article makes it sound like nuclear weapons are the only ones that produce a mushroom cloud, which our military brethren here have told us is not true.

What was interesting to me were the white flashes that are produced by the neutrons, which are clearly visible in my opinion.

 

[Velo Vol]

GR Editor’s note

The report below is unconfirmed. The evidence is scanty.

Sounds legit.

Like this "analysis":

Delivery is most likely by an IDF F-16 with a Saudi paint job on the plane. They are not even hiding their use anymore, they just don’t publicly admit it and the IAEA does nothing or says nothing. That is the true war crime. The UN just ignores it unless the US, France or GB complain

 

[LouderVol]

What was interesting to me were the white flashes that are produced by the neutrons, which are clearly visible in my opinion.

in the video before the camera was already in bad condition, was already blurry. and the little white boxes could easily be due to the flash of the explosion overriding the chip causing it not to read certain pixels. that big of an explosion, if we assume for this conversation was non nuclear, could easily have an effect on the camera. the man falls over, damages the camera then by shock. the flash of light overwhelms whatever sensors they have temporarily. the shock from the blast (enough to cause the guy to fall over) also could have damaged the camera. any of these are plausible, and i would argue more plausible solutions than a nuclear blast. and should have been included in any real analysis.

 

[Pacer92]

It's dismissed because the author, one Michel Chossudovsky, is a regular conspiracy theorist that makes some outlandish claims.

Has nothing to do with where it's from, rather who writes it.

Of course he's labelled a conspiracy theorist when his articles don't fit the narrative...

 

[Pacer92]

you can produce a mushroom cloud in your backyard with gasoline and a match

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUPIDVMl8XM[/youtube]

Thanks Fire Marshall Bill!! :good!:

 

[Grand Vol]

Of course he's labelled a conspiracy theorist when his articles don't fit the narrative...

Even Infowars didn't run the story. That should tell you quite a bit there.