Nuland said the US was overthrowing Yanukovich and installing their person? She said the US had a plan? And was prepared to use the military to execute it? We've already been over this in context. Are you still that stupid to insist this call is the smoking gun? The State Department is in every freaking country already. Even the Russians had a heavy presence there but I don't hear you whining about them. Paperpushers who are already with a footprint in the country is more evidence? Dude you have a serious issue with fact, logic, evidence, etc. A bureaucratic presence is not indicative of a coup. John McCain being there is not indicative of a coup. Nuland's call basically going over Yanukovich's move to push Yatsenyuk as his pick which was simple logic is not indicative of a coup. Lay off whatever it is you are smoking. There is far more evidence of Russia's involvement in Ukraine well before Maidan but you ignore all those facts for some tinfoil hat, basement dwelling conspiracy nut nonsense that a phone call is proof the US government overhtrew Yanukovich with career bureaucrats in suits. And some election geeks teaching how to build a party organization for get out the vote efforts was stronger than the government, the Berkut, and the military. That is some seriously messed up thinking.
