Cal, Auburn, and Vols all in NIT?

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BigZiti09 said:
I'm not omitting facts. Stokes had a limited number of options. He fell into our laps.

I'll compare them when they are finished. Tyndall may have a five star fall into his lap.
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If by fall into his lap you mean beat out the hometown school and a 2x national championship winning shool then so be, by using that particular phrase it's pretty clear you have a hard time giving any sort of credit which makes your agenda glaringly obvious.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I guess you could say the same for Mostella and Woodson then, by far Tyndall's 2 best gets, spin it how YOU want.
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Woodson is gone. You won't see me talk about him. He was a take because McKnight was black balled by the league.

He got Mostella during the spring season. Not mid year under unusual circumstances.

Again, Tyndall hasn't been here for 3.5 recruiting cycles. He has been here for the end of one and the start of another.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If by fall into his lap you mean beat out the hometown school and a 2x national championship winning shool then so be, by using that particular phrase it's pretty clear you have a hard time giving any sort of credit which makes your agenda glaringly obvious.
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Ultimately I give Zo credit for signing two top 100 players as I've said repeatedly. You ignore those posts though because you can't combat it. It's truth and not what you want to hear. Just like you ignore the posts about you signing the petition. It's another fact that you ignore.

What is my agenda? I want to hear it.

Your agenda: 1. Argue 2. Make this forum about you 3. Criticize the new coach because you're butthurt about the last one which you had a hand in running off
 
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golfballs said:
The fact is he came here. You are trying to infer reasoning behind it in order to put that fact in different context. That's pretty much the definition of spin.
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He came here but I think it's important to realize the circumstances that lead to his signing when comparing Tyndall's second class (which is not finished) to Cuonzo's.

It's not spin.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
He came here but I think it's important to realize the circumstances that lead to his signing when comparing Tyndall's second class (which is not finished) to Cuonzo's.

It's not spin.
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See my edit. It's exactly what spin is.

Otherwise, if you wish to truly compare the two, then you need to be consistent. Don't make assumptions and dissect just one players decision - you need do it for every single player to have signed with Tennessee in the last 4 years. Then we can start comparing them equally.

After you post your research then we can discuss.
 
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golfballs said:
The fact is he came here. You are making an inference in order to present that fact in a different light - one that suits your argument. That's the definition of spin.
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What if I said Larry Coker was one of the best 10 college football coaches of this decade? He won a national title and played for another. How many others can say that? Would you not agree Larry Coker was one of the greatest coaches since 2000?

You can't argue with the facts. If you do you're just spinning to fit your argument. Don't tell me how he inherited all those NFL players. That's spin.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Exactly, there is no comparison between the 2, landing a 5* top 20 recruit is a huge deal.
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At the time, I was excited and hoping it meant something but after seeing all his other recruiting it did have the feel that he just lucked into it. If he could have just landed solid role players to go with Stokes, JRICH, and Hubbs. The guys he was bringing in made little sense....Armani as a PG....and what was he thinking with Reese and the SF.....Darius Thompson is not a good PG for a team built on tight man to man defense.....where did AJ Davis fit? It just made zero sense to me.....Im not saying CDT is better but we at least have to see his guys hit the court and be able to finish his class. Hopefully the top 100 player he has committed for yr 3 is the start of his first of many great classes.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Woodson is gone. You won't see me talk about him. He was a take because McKnight was black balled by the league.

He got Mostella during the spring season. Not mid year under unusual circumstances.

Again, Tyndall hasn't been here for 3.5 recruiting cycles. He has been here for the end of one and the start of another.
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And McKnight isn't even getting on the court for LBSU, so there's that.

Mostella became available late, most schools thought he wouldn't qualify and had given up on him, if you consider Stokes a fortunate series of events then Mostella would definitely fall into that same category.

Again, we can compare after Year 2 if you'd like.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Ultimately I give Zo credit for signing two top 100 players as I've said repeatedly. You ignore those posts though because you can't combat it. It's truth and not what you want to hear. Just like you ignore the posts about you signing the petition. It's another fact that you ignore.

What is my agenda? I want to hear it.

Your agenda: 1. Argue 2. Make this forum about you 3. Criticize the new coach because you're butthurt about the last one which you had a hand in running off
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Too much stupid here to even try
 
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BigZiti09 said:
He came here but I think it's important to realize the circumstances that lead to his signing when comparing Tyndall's second class (which is not finished) to Cuonzo's.

It's not spin.
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If you are gonna say there were circumstances surrounding Stokes coming here, then you have to say the same for Mostella, if not...that's a perfect evidence of the agenda I'm speaking about.
 
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golfballs said:
See my edit. It's exactly what spin is.

Otherwise, if you wish to truly compare the two, then you need to be consistent. Don't make assumptions and dissect just one players decision - you need do it for every single player to have signed with Tennessee in the last 4 years. Then we can start comparing them equally.

After you post your research then we can discuss.
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I saw enough evidence in his recruiting after the signing of Jarnell to realize that the circumstances of the situation played a huge impact in signing him. In my opinion, the situation helped get Jarnell to Knoxville more than Cuonzo's recruiting ability. I don't see how anyone could argue it didn't play a role.

If the argument is that Cuonzo signed a better 2nd class than Tyndall, then I would say that Tyndall hasn't finished the class.

Or maybe you want to address my other point that Cuonzo only signed two top 100 players in four classes and Tyndall has already signed 1. Two if you want to count Woodson which I donh because I think he was only taken out of necessity after McKnight was denied. Tyndall has a 4* committed for 2016. I'm sure BTO and the other Cuonzo lovers would argue that he hasn't signed and a lot can happen but we only know what we know. He's committed to tyndall for now.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If you are gonna say there were circumstances surrounding Stokes coming here, then you have to say the same for Mostella, if not...that's a perfect evidence of the agenda I'm speaking about.
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What are the circumstances. He signed him in the spring signing period. Lots of teams could have signed him.

Tell me my agenda. Please
 
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volbeast33 said:
At the time, I was excited and hoping it meant something but after seeing all his other recruiting it did have the feel that he just lucked into it. If he could have just landed solid role players to go with Stokes, JRICH, and Hubbs. The guys he was bringing in made little sense....Armani as a PG....and what was he thinking with Reese and the SF.....Darius Thompson is not a good PG for a team built on tight man to man defense.....where did AJ Davis fit? It just made zero sense to me.....Im not saying CDT is better but we at least have to see his guys hit the court and be able to finish his class. Hopefully the top 100 player he has committed for yr 3 is the start of his first of many great classes.
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Agreed, but he did what I thought was a good job in the 2014 class, but comparatively speaking has regressed in the 2015 class with much more time to work, and that's worrisome IMO, but hopefully we can hang on to White.
 
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