In defense of Mike Debord:

Freaking insanity but hey yr 3. No excuses he either wins or fire his ass like dools n move on. Simple 6 or 7 wins n he should be fired..

Geez the threads about give him time he needs his players to run his off...ground hog day for 6 yrs..

fans don't have to love the hire and Jones better not care what fans think about the hire. What Butch has to do in regards to the hire is be right.

If they win 5 games, it will be the hires fault and fans will really be hot but that doesn't matter who the hire is. DeBord or anyone else. Win 5 and things are hot.

Win 9 and everyone loves everyone.
 
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Larry, is this more like Butch repaying a old debt (DeBord was Butch's old HC at CMU), than him honestly trying to hire the most qualified/best fit?

I have to believe it's more of the former than the later. Going to the fridge to grab the Pepto Bismol.

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Will hang up and listen. :)

Butch better be right on the hire no matter who it is. Win 5 games this fall with whoever is the OC and he might be done.. he doesn't have to make fans happy right now, just in December
 
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Given that the current UT admin would have kept Dooley for year 4 if he had eeked out only one more win in year 3, it is awfully, awfully hard for me to believe that a 5 win season next year would lead to Jones being fired.

Also hard for me to believe that Jones could fail to hit .500 with the talent he will have, regardless of who is OC, but Fulmer managed to do it in 2005 so I guess it is possible.

9 wins might get Jones a contract extension to 2032 or beyond.
 
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Coach Jones was his OC at central Michigan so I would say he knows and understands exactly how CBJ offense works. It's also hard to replace experience . just like anything the more you do something and is around that kind of atmosphere the eaiser it is to do your job and easier to help kids adjust to the grind of college football with class and practice as well
 
According to rumors, Debord was the second guy on for Fulmer and Debord was hired twice by a HOF coach in Carr. That's pretty high regard by two HOF coaches. That said, you are correct in saying that we don't know how he will translate to the current though.

I'm intelligent enough to acknowledge that if Fulmer, Carr, and Butch all hold him in such high regard that he might be a wee bit better than Vol Nation is giving him credit for.
Lloyd Carr was being pressured to step down...cause he couldn't get it done against tOSU. So, he is a lot like Fulmer in that regard. Not a stellar record the last several years of his career.

However, in that 2008 Gator Bowl, last time DeBord was an OC, you could see some spread concepts used throughout the game. Maybe RichRod consulted with DeBord and they develop those concepts into the gameplan for the bowl game.

If he is hired, I guess I'll just have to wait and see, rather than go into cookie-hurling mode.
 
I, personally, am offended with all of these age-discriminatory comments concerning Mike DeBord.

Playing football is a young man's game. Not so with coaching football!

Writing older people off (along with their acquired wisdom and experience) is a large part of what's wrong with this country.

The only conceivably legitimate concerns about hiring an "older" coach might have to do with his overall level of energy and stamina in the grueling arena of college football and, unfortunately, his potential lack of appeal to young guys on the recruiting trail.

But when it comes to calling plays from the booth, give me a cool head and lots of experience any day!

Of DeBord, Daniel Lewis of Rocky Top Insider writes:

"Perhaps Jones sees this as an opportunity to further intertwine the spread principles that are in place with him and his current staff with some downhill, pro-style running elements . . ."

As I said elsewhere, that is music to my ears. EXACTLY what we need. And you don't need to look any further than what Ohio State did this year to prove that.

Besides, since when is a 58-year-old considered over the hill? Consider two of the greatest coaches in history in their respective sports: Wooden and Bryant. They both coached, and very well, relatively late into their lives.

Flame away ye little sonnies!
 
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Good, sensible post.

I'm not sure if I want DeBord, but this is better than all the other garbage people post that pertains to the topic.
 
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I, personally, am offended with all of these age-discriminatory comments concerning Mike DeBord.

Playing football is a young man's game. Not so with coaching football!

Writing older people off (along with their acquired wisdom and experience) is a large part of what's wrong with this country.

The only conceivably legitimate concerns about hiring an "older" coach might have to do with his overall level of energy and stamina in the grueling arena of college football and, unfortunately, his potential lack of appeal to young guys on the recruiting trail.

But when it comes to calling plays from the booth, give me a cool head and lots of experience any day!

Of DeBord, Daniel Lewis of Rocky Top Insider writes:

"Perhaps Jones sees this as an opportunity to further intertwine the spread principles that are in place with him and his current staff with some downhill, pro-style running elements . . ."

As I said elsewhere, that is music to my ears. EXACTLY what we need. And you don't need to look any further than what Ohio State did this year to prove that.

Besides, since when is a 58-year-old considered over the hill? Consider two of the greatest coaches in history in their respective sports: Wooden and Bryant. They both coached, and very well, relatively late into their lives.

Flame away ye little sonnies!

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I, personally, am offended with all of these age-discriminatory comments concerning Mike DeBord.

Playing football is a young man's game. Not so with coaching football!

Writing older people off (along with their acquired wisdom and experience) is a large part of what's wrong with this country.

The only conceivably legitimate concerns about hiring an "older" coach might have to do with his overall level of energy and stamina in the grueling arena of college football and, unfortunately, his potential lack of appeal to young guys on the recruiting trail.

But when it comes to calling plays from the booth, give me a cool head and lots of experience any day!

Of DeBord, Daniel Lewis of Rocky Top Insider writes:

"Perhaps Jones sees this as an opportunity to further intertwine the spread principles that are in place with him and his current staff with some downhill, pro-style running elements . . ."

As I said elsewhere, that is music to my ears. EXACTLY what we need. And you don't need to look any further than what Ohio State did this year to prove that.

Besides, since when is a 58-year-old considered over the hill? Consider two of the greatest coaches in history in their respective sports: Wooden and Bryant. They both coached, and very well, relatively late into their lives.

Flame away ye little sonnies!

Ok so you're going to bring up Wooden and Bryant. Well you should know that each one of those guys spent 25 years STRAIGHT at their positions. Neither one took an 8 year break.

So does Ohio State employ a 58 year old former OC who hasn't called plays in college for 8 years? How about Alabama? Baylor? TCU? Oregon? UGA? Auburn? FSU?
 
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Ok so you're going to bring up Wooden and Bryant. Well you should know that each one of those guys spent 25 years STRAIGHT at their positions. Neither one took an 8 year break.

So does Ohio State employ a 58 year old former OC who hasn't called plays in college for 8 years? How about Alabama? Baylor? TCU? Oregon? UGA? Auburn? FSU?

Good point...:thumbsup:
 
Ok so you're going to bring up Wooden and Bryant. Well you should know that each one of those guys spent 25 years STRAIGHT at their positions. Neither one took an 8 year break.

So does Ohio State employ a 58 year old former OC who hasn't called plays in college for 8 years? How about Alabama? Baylor? TCU? Oregon? UGA? Auburn? FSU?

I'm guessing your looking for a "NO" response here. Just asking because I don't know, is the same true in the NFL ?
 
Ok so you're going to bring up Wooden and Bryant. Well you should know that each one of those guys spent 25 years STRAIGHT at their positions. Neither one took an 8 year break.

So does Ohio State employ a 58 year old former OC who hasn't called plays in college for 8 years? How about Alabama? Baylor? TCU? Oregon? UGA? Auburn? FSU?

Your assumption is that taking an eight-year break is necessarily a bad thing. Maybe so, but maybe not.

It would be a bad thing if 1) He stopped paying attention to the game and how it has developed. 2) If he has already become senile at 58 and his mind has deteriorated.

On the other hand, an eight year break might have 1) Re-energized him. 2) Given him a chance to look back and constructively re-evaluate his successes and failures. 3) Given him a fresh, outside, perspective that most busy assistant coaches don't get.
 
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