Michigan Contacted CBJ per FootballScoop (merged)

#601
#601
If he goes, Piss on him.
If he stays, Give em hell coach.
Not a damn thing anyone here can do about it either way
 
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sjt18 said:
You are the boss where? Dollar General?

I know plenty about the "ebb and flow" of success and also that you look deeper than the surface to know whether it is ebb and flow or a trend. Fulmer's last 6 years or so weren't an ebb and flow. They were a trend.... downward. The 2005 took most of us by surprise but it really shouldn't have. If you go back and look at the "fundamental health" of UT's program starting around the departure of Cut... UT was sick and getting sicker. LOTS of problems... all pointing toward a decline.

I like drama? Try a mirror next time you are tempted to write that.

I didn't really take sides in this last coaching search or the one before that. It is a lot of drama created mostly by people who have no earthly idea what's happening or who is being talked to. If I think someone is a good candidate I say so (I thought Strong would be good for UT). If I think someone is a bad candidate I say so. And some of the really stupid stuff I try to avoid (the Gruden debates).

What is "suitable" is a championship caliber coach. Volnation should expect nothing less to go with its first class support and facilities. We should tolerate nothing less from the AD. But those guys can come from just about anywhere. Some come as known quantities. Some seemingly come out of nowhere. Oregon's string of guys you've never heard of until they win 12 games is pretty impressive in that regard.


FWIW, I do not want Jones gone. I don't think it would be the end of the world like some. I also do not think it would be good for UT. The BEST option for UT is for him to start performing in the 3rd component (gameday coaching) and become a championship caliber coach in the SEC. I believe that outside of the OL he has demonstrated that he can develop players. He has proven he can recruit. The ability to coach at a high SEC level is the part still in question. Embedded in that is the ability to surround himself with SEC caliber coaches.
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Dollar General with $15B in annual revenue? Sure, I'll take that gig, thanks!

Ok, other than what I see as your rush to judgement about Jones, we can agree. If he stays around, we will get there in a couple of years or so.
 
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MedicT said:
Dollar General with $15B in annual revenue? Sure, I'll take that gig, thanks!

Ok, other than what I see as your rush to judgement about Jones, we can agree. If he stays around, we will get there in a couple of years or so.
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If he gets a huge raise, it should be next year.. 10 wins...
 
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Vercingetorix said:
You should consider that the biggest reason Cutcliffe got fired by Ole Miss is because he wasn't much of a recruiter. Duke is the perfect spot for him because recruiting is sort of beside the point.
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Ole Miss wouldn't have hired him at all if they hadn't seen it as a necessity to make Eli a Rebel instead of a Vol.
 
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EZE said:
Saban?

Just kidding. Pinkel would be a homerun for us. It would sink Mizzou down to UK/Vandy depths with USC not far behind.
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Yeah, if they hired Pinkel, I would be ecstatic. That man has been a miracle worker with the talent he has had at Mizzou.
 
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LA Vol said:
Gillespie and Thig are not part of the Cincy Six. The chemistry might be good, but these two don't have the history and family ties with Butch that his core group has. Gillespie and Thig have moved around a lot. A strong offer from a solid program could sway one or both of them, IMO.
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Thig is not, and has never been a job hopper.
 
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#610
Also I hope no one thinks Butch is in Michigan right now because it's a silly rumor. Social media is incorrect and all it is right now is assumptions
 
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JohnMcA60 said:
Also I hope no one thinks Butch is in Michigan right now because it's a silly rumor. Social media is incorrect and all it is right now is assumptions
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He's in Indianapolis recruiting. Its not like he's sitting around his office holding out to get a raise. He's working hard to get Tennessee back to prominence!
 
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eVOLve said:
He's in Indianapolis recruiting. Its not like he's sitting around his office holding out to get a raise. He's working hard to get Tennessee back to prominence!
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Indiana is a recruiting pipeline... To Michigan

#brickbywolverinebrick
 
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RockyTop411 said:
I don't see us going 8-4 next year, but if we did, there's a good chance we'd be in Atlanta next year. SECe is bad.
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A few twists of fate to go our way and we could have realistically pulled off and 8-9 win season this year. Be it a few critical coaching decisions at critical times in the game, or some ref blunders that gave a couple teams a chance to win when we were in position to pull some upsets. FLA filed goal on a no call expired play clock being the grossest error. There were two more games we could have won but blew it for whatever reason late in the games.
 
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Timely:

@CoachRichman1: Great to have @UTCoachJones at LC today recruiting @LCHSAthletics

Kirkland's coach couple min ago
 
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eVOLve said:
He's in Indianapolis recruiting. Its not like he's sitting around his office holding out to get a raise. He's working hard to get Tennessee back to prominence!
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I know just telling others. Everyone getting a little too riled up about it.
 
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HvilleCommando said:
Can someone please explain how all this talk started today?
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Rumor is Butch hasn't agreed to sign his contract/raise extension. Wes Rucker tweeted to the effect that Butch and Michigan had mutual interest.... and then **** hit the fan.

General consensus is that Butch's agent is using the Michigan opening to secure more money for Butch. In all liklihood, that's probably what's happening. But then again, we've been here before as UT fans, saying "this is b.s. our coach isn't going anywhere." Mattresses were burning before midnight the next day.
 
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Volstylexx said:
Rumor is Butch hasn't agreed to sign his contract/raise extension. Wes Rucker tweeted to the effect that Butch and Michigan had mutual interest.... and then **** hit the fan.

General consensus is that Butch's agent is using the Michigan opening to secure more money for Butch. In all liklihood, that's probably what's happening. But then again, we've been here before as UT fans, saying "this is b.s. our coach isn't going anywhere." Mattresses were burning before midnight the next day.
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mutual interest could also mean neither has intersest.:)
 
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