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Boom.

@Volquest_Paul: Tennessee's four DL commits who's season are over combined for 37 sacks this season. Butcher - 18, Taylor - 8, Tuttle - 6, Ford - 5.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Also, more goes into it than a 6-6 season. It may not to us fans, but the administration considers other things. How is the culture? How are the students' academic records? How is recruiting? Are former players coming back? How is fundraising? I would venture to guess that all of those are positive under Butch Jones.
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Gonna pick out this part of your post because I wish more fans acknowledged this.

I see all of these people proclaiming "8-4 next year or Jones is officially on the hot seat" or something to that effect, and I think that is just a vast oversimplification. The record is important, yes, but it's not the only factor. It's also easily influenced by factors over which coaches have only a marginal degree of control: fluke plays, injuries/suspensions to either team, bad calls against either team, bad weather, and more. 2013 Auburn was proof of that phenomenon in the positive direction, but just as many or more instances go the other way.

Ultimately, I care a lot more about visible improvement, both on and off the field, than I do about the record. Our team was clearly much better than last year - I don't think the 1-win improvement does it justice. There was a noticeable difference in team speed, several players had clearly made strides, several new players made a big impact for us. And that's before considering the other factors that VolGee mentioned. I want to see a similar leap from this year to next. If we continue to see those leaps, then the record will eventually take care of itself.

That's what I want to see. Bad years and bad games are always painful when they happen, but in the long run I would be much more concerned by a trend of year-over-year stagnation (or regression) than a single bad result. We've yet to see evidence of any such trend.
 
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IMO no one in cfb works harder than CBJ and staff. The last 2 to 3 weeks I have heard most talking heads predicting that we will contend for the East next year and the SEC title in 2 years. Let's reward the hard work...the results are coming.
 
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I didn't realize that Dee Hart from Alabama ended up at Colorado St with McElwain. Saban with a nice little alley oop to his former OC. I would say a former 5 star would tear it up in the Mountain West.

For those that don't remember him, he was the number 1 all purpose back comin out of high school, went to bama and I believe had a marijuana arrest "graduated" early and went out to Colorado.
 
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Don't let the big bad powerful Florida bully you, CSU AD!!!

FWD: @ChaseGoodbread: RT @gatorhoops: Per @colorodoan, Florida trying to negotiate McElwain's buyout down from $7.5 million to $3 million w promise of playing CSU in Denver.
 
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Something I've been thinking about... I go to many of the games each year so I'm not sure if people who aren't able to do so understand this: you can tell that this team is night and day different in the level of athlete we have from simply seeing the team on the field in person. Seeing kids like Hurd, Barnett, Kelly and many others come in straight out of high school and compete with/sometimes physically dominate those who have been in the program for multiple years (under Dooley) and other upperclassman from our opponents is a welcome change.

I don't know if that comes across on TV as much as it does in the stadium, but it's real. They simply look the part.

Now we just have to develop those kids, bring in more beasts and give the staff time to where they are reacting rather than thinking, and we are there. I'm so happy for the extra practices, the positive momentum, the top 10 recruiting class and our head football coach telling a top 10 program to kick rocks.

I've been sick as hell and I've started a dosepak of prednisone now so I'm ranting today. Haha.

Gotta go run some laps and rake the leaves. Squirrel!
 
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volssam said:
Don't let the big bad powerful Florida bully you, CSU AD!!!

FWD: @ChaseGoodbread: RT @gatorhoops: Per @colorodoan, Florida trying to negotiate McElwain's buyout down from $7.5 million to $3 million w promise of playing CSU in Denver.
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Is that weird? "So here's the deal: We give you $4.5M less, you give us your coach, and we'll throw in a beat down at home for free. Imagine the benefits." Um...no.

Just waiting for them to throw in a '92 Impala with 213K miles (great tires tho!) and a years' free subscription to AOL...
 
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SSVol said:
Is that weird? "So here's the deal: We give you $4.5M less, you give us your coach, and we'll throw in a beat down at home for free. Imagine the benefits." Um...no.

Just waiting for them to throw in a '92 Impala with 213K miles (great tires tho!) and a years' free subscription to AOL...
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If they go jelly of the month club I'd take it.
 
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SSVol said:
Is that weird? "So here's the deal: We give you $4.5M less, you give us your coach, and we'll throw in a beat down at home for free. Imagine the benefits." Um...no.

Just waiting for them to throw in a '92 Impala with 213K miles (great tires tho!) and a years' free subscription to AOL...
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Their president screwed the pooch and made a verbal deal not to hold him to the 7.5 regarding a dream job. CSU trying to save face.

Sucks for them.
 
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Nebraska apparently interested in Bielema.

Bruce Feldman--"Have heard similar today as #FootballScoop site just tweeted that #Nebraska is interested in #Razorback coach Bret Bielema. We'll see."
 
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Do we want Bielma to go to Nebraska? I say yes, so hopefully they hire a coach who implements a whole new system. Would be nice to get an easy SEC win next year.
 
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Dust10 said:
Do we want Bielma to go to Nebraska? I say yes, so hopefully they hire a coach who implements a whole new system. Would be nice to get an easy SEC win next year.
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Absolutely but I don't see him leaving after the solid season
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Gaulden is small for a safety. Evan Berry has the speed/size of an SEC safety. He needs to work on his tackling technique. But he could be an elite safety for us.
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I guess you're right - I just need to see a guy like Gaulden as a tackling machine on the field. Maybe at corner or nickel. A Berry at safety?! If he can play it that's a no brainer even for me. TKjr and Berry with footballs in the air - double wow!
 
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Dust10 said:
Do we want Bielma to go to Nebraska? I say yes, so hopefully they hire a coach who implements a whole new system. Would be nice to get an easy SEC win next year.
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What we absolutely do not want is them to hire the newest Wisconsin coach Andersen. I believe he is your next Gary Pinkel type coach. Has been known to get more with less on the field.
 
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DD4ME said:
What we absolutely do not want is them to hire the newest Wisconsin coach Andersen. I believe he is your next Gary Pinkel type coach. Has been known to get more with less on the field.
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I agree. When he went to Wisconsin I was relieved. That guy will win big anywhere he goes. I would rather go against Bielema since you know what you are going against with him. With Anderson you have developer of talent that is also a strategist.
 
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Well rednecks, im pleased to announce that a newborn vol fan will be introduced at the beginning of August.

In no time at all a little '88 will be wreaking havoc. Hold on to your butts and brace yourselves for sideways pics and more... :question:
 
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