Ferguson Riots

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azVolFan said:
I was not allowed to play with guns as a kid. Guns are not toys.

Kid did something stupid. Kid lost his life. Parents lost their kid. Cop will be living with this for the rest of his life.
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I did. I was hunting alone by 12. I learned to respect guns and people growing up.
 
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mrorange211 said:
It's hard to say what should be done in that situation, but there has to be a better way then killing the kid. Has to be.
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I don't know the specifics of the case, so I won't say one way or the other if there was in this case. I will say that when someone points a gun at you, you have about a half-second to decide whether you'll be going home after your shift.

That officer probably didn't have the luxury you do--to sit in the comfort of your own home and wax philosophical about if there was "a better way".
 
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bamawriter said:
As an aside (and I'm sure I'm about to be labeled a racist by some):

While I appreciate the outrage that the Mike Brown case, along with the other police-involved shootings referenced, have caused, it strikes me as telling that we can so easily identify all of these cases. Yet, I'm fairly certain that not one of us would be able to name more than one of the black-on-black murders that happen on a daily basis in most major cities. It's like being able to name every cruise ship that has ever sunk, but not being able to name every car that has ever crashed. The fact is that these police-involved shootings are exceedingly rare when compared to black-on-black violence, but they get infinitely more coverage.

I don't mean to say that these incidents aren't important. While they are rare, they aren't rare enough. But the attention that these incidents receive masks the real epidemic that is constantly taking the lives of young black men in this country.
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We have a huge cultural problem in this country that wasn't solved by electing a black president.
 
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mrorange211 said:
I don;t like the fact that a person was killed who was not armed. That's what I don't like.
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So again I ask the question you ignored last night.

Would you rather have Wilson been beaten senseless and had his weapon taken by Brown? You want an individual that's already showed the propensity for violent and bully behavior to have a weapon?

Because that's exactly what was happening.
 
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mrorange211 said:
I don;t like the fact that a person was killed who was not armed. That's what I don't like.
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You may want to edit your post. You said that the grand jury made the right decision, and we shouldn't expect you to like it (the fact that the grand jury made the right decision).

It is sad that a person died. The evidence points to the fact that it was a result of his own actions. Sad.

But to hold an officer responsible for the sad results of a person's actions would be adding bad to sad.
 
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mrorange211 said:
If the mind of 12 yr old is the same then why do we prosecute them differently? Had he shot and killed the cop, do you think he would have been tried as an adult? It's possible, but highly unlikely.
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I agree. But what you're failing to see is the cops right to defend himself. It very much appeared that this young man was trying to draw his weapon. So he got shot.
 
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mrorange211 said:
He was elected only because of Nathaniel Hawthorne's biography of him that was completely made up. Sorry but this isn't a liberal conservative issue. He was terrible, which is evident in his handling of the Nebraska/Kansas situation. Oh yeah, he repealed wanted to repeal the Missouri Compromise which is the most direct cause of the CW.

Oh yeah and he drank himself to death. High character there.
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The War of Northern Aggression was brought about by Abraham Lincoln, which resulted in the horrible deaths of more than 600,000 American citizens. More deaths than all other American wars combined.

Pierce had nothing to do with Lincoln's war, anymore than Wilson did in defending himself against Brown.
 
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mrorange211 said:
It's hard to say what should be done in that situation, but there has to be a better way then killing the kid. Has to be.
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Honest question-if you ran into a person with a gun and after being told to do one thing they do another and part of "other" is to point a gun at you. (this isn't a case of mistaken identity where it's a cell phone or something, by your observation you are absolutely seeing a firearm) Now they point that at you...you're best option is to stand there and hope it's not real?

Look, I hate the idea of somebody getting shot that, in retrospect, probably didn't need to be. Having said that you seem a bit too comfortable with what is tantamount to having other people play russian roullette with their lives.
 
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this "kid" was an oversized punk caught on camera just moments before in a strong arm robbery.
He then inserts himself into the front seat of a police car. What's the problem? What does this have to do with skin color? Nothing.
This is a perfect example of the twisted logic that pervades our culture.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
The War of Northern Aggression was brought about by Abraham Lincoln, which resulted in the horrible deaths of more than 600,000 American citizens. More deaths than all other American wars combined.

Pierce had nothing to do with Lincoln's war, anymore than Wilson did in defending himself against Brown.
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Are you saying you support slavery?
 
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tim said:
I did. I was hunting alone by 12. I learned to respect guns and people growing up.
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I was allowed to shoot real guns and also hunted at about 13 alone.

My dad would have gotten an Adrian Peterson style beating from his dad for simply pointing his finger at someone and saying "bang".

You aim at a gun at someone because you intend to kill them. Toy or not. I understand it's a little strict but it's too teach respect for something which purpose is death.
 
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