Even More Obamacare Follies

[MG1968]

If you see overpopulation as an issue, especially one that leads to poverty and starvation: why would you not support government subsidized birth control and abortions?

Because we don't live in communist China.

 

[Gramps]

It's called rhetoric, Gramps. We all know who the democrats expect to pay the bills and it isn't somebody who gets back more than he or she paid in.

This I agree to and yes the 47% line was strictly rhetoric first stated at a fundraising event, IIRC.

 

[hog88]

If you see overpopulation as an issue, especially one that leads to poverty and starvation: why would you not support government subsidized birth control and abortions?

Do you know what root cause means?

 

[Gramps]

If you see overpopulation as an issue, especially one that leads to poverty and starvation: why would you not support government subsidized birth control and abortions?

Why don't we just bomb the poor neighborhoods

 

[Vol8188]

You've lost your mind.

For the majority of the 1900s, income taxes have been between 60-90% for the top bracket. Today they are only 39.6%.

 

[Vol8188]

Do you know what root cause means?

Sure. What is the cause though?

 

[govols/cc]

Sure. What is the cause though?

Culture. Laziness. Knowing there's a bailout

 

[Vol8188]

Or do away with government assistance and it fixes itself

Just allow mentally handicapped people to die on the streets? You are a real republican.

 

[Vol8188]

Culture. Laziness. Knowing there's a bailout

Overpopulation?

 

[MG1968]

For the majority of the 1900s, income taxes have been between 60-90% for the top bracket. Today they are only 39.6%.

Ever heard of loopholes. Nobody paid 60-90%.

And "only 39.6"? really? We shouldn't be taxed on what we earn to begin with, but you're happy with 40% of someone's income going to the government.

 

[govols/cc]

Just allow mentally handicapped people to die on the streets? You are a real republican.

Why are mentally handicapped people on the streets?

 

[govols/cc]

Overpopulation?

Ignorance.

 

[govols/cc]

Ever heard of loopholes. Nobody paid 60-90%.

And "only 39.6"? really? We shouldn't be taxed on what we earn to begin with, but you're happy with 40% of someone's income going to the government.

I agree. That's absurd.

 

[Gramps]

Ever heard of loopholes. Nobody paid 60-90%.

And "only 39.6"? really? We shouldn't be taxed on what we earn to begin with, but you're happy with 40% of someone's income going to the government.

If we actually calculated all the local, state and federal taxes we pay what would be the median % of income do we pay in taxes?

 

[govols/cc]

If we actually calculated all the local, state and federal taxes we pay what would be the median % of income do we pay in taxes?

Depends on your income and what you have worked to buy. Damn at the irony

 

[MG1968]

If we actually calculated all the local, state and federal taxes we pay what would be the median % of income do we pay in taxes?

In a state like New York, it approaches 60%

 

[Vol8188]

Ever heard of loopholes. Nobody paid 60-90%.

And "only 39.6"? really? We shouldn't be taxed on what we earn to begin with, but you're happy with 40% of someone's income going to the government.

You believe there's less loopholes now than there were in the 40?

 

[DC_Vol]

If we actually calculated all the local, state and federal taxes we pay what would be the median % of income do we pay in taxes?

the spread between the median and the average will be large.

 

[Vol8188]

Because we don't live in communist China.

There's nothing communist about it. Capitalism creates income inequality. For capitalism to work, you need to have assistance programs.

 

[McDad]

If we actually calculated all the local, state and federal taxes we pay what would be the median % of income do we pay in taxes?

Around 18% for federal income tax. Some have calculated the total of all taxes paid to federal, stae, and local agencies to average 50% of income.

 

[govols/cc]

You believe there's less loopholes now than there were in the 40?

Less loopholes and more credits. Might tie in to your overpopulation theory.

 

[Vol8188]

Why are mentally handicapped people on the streets?

Because you want to eliminate their government assistance.

 

[govols/cc]

There's nothing communist about it. Capitalism creates income inequality. For capitalism to work, you need to have assistance programs.

Or people who work

 

[MG1968]

You believe there's less loopholes now than there were in the 40?

Yes. Personally, I believe all loopholes should be closed and exemptions (like mortgage interest) eliminated. If we must pay an income tax, it should be a flat 15% for all income levels.

 

[Vol8188]

Less loopholes and more credits. Might tie in to your overpopulation theory.

I highly doubt there were as many loopholes in the 40s as there are now. And taxes were way higher then.