Drastic action needed on Ebola

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CDC not coming outright and saying it but it sounds like the infected is a foreigner .
 
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Dallas on high alert and ambulance crew quarantined.

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Oh, and the guy is from Liberia and apparently arrived in the States a week ago. I'm sure he didn't come into contact with anyone else during that time.
 
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I think some of you need to go and isolate yourselves in a bunker somewhere. Why are some of you so scared of Ebola?
 
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hog88 said:
It's not the actual spread of the disease it's the fear the disease will cause leading to people not spending money. Particularly at the start of the holiday shopping season.
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That's because most of the general public act irrationally and freak out over nothing.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I think some of you need to go and isolate yourselves in a bunker somewhere. Why are some of you so scared of Ebola?
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It's natural to be concerned about it, heck I'm concerned about it, but the levels of fear I'm seeing from the average American is crazy. I'm glad that the CDC and state/local agencies are implementing their response plans as they should. People need to calm down and realize that you won't see the size and scale of an outbreak in West Africa in developed Western countries thanks to our resources, medical technology, and experienced doctors. I mean I'm more likely to die from a car crash or even flu than I would ever be from ebola. I'll tell you what I'm really afraid of is the next global pandemic flu.
 
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Burhead said:
It's natural to be concerned about it, heck I'm concerned about it, but the levels of fear I'm seeing from the average American is crazy. I'm glad that the CDC and state/local agencies are implementing their response plans as they should. People need to calm down and realize that you won't see the size and scale of an outbreak in West Africa in developed Western countries thanks to our resources, medical technology, and experienced doctors. I mean I'm more likely to die from a car crash or even flu than I would ever be from ebola. I'll tell you what I'm really afraid of is the next global pandemic flu.
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I am in full agreement. My best friend is an Infectious Disease specialist in NO and he and I talk weekly about Ebola. He and his colleagues are surprised it has taken this long to show up here. He has pretty much said the same thing you have, people are freaking out and its unnecessary.

I think there are people who seriously believe its airborne. Also although this outbreak is bad, its kind of local in actuality. Also the mortality rate is not as bad as some think. You're right about the flu.
 
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I'm sure there are many who have and will overreact to the fact that ebola is now in America. That can be dangerous. However, I would suggest that it's perhaps equally as dangerous to underreact.

There have been a lot of comparisons to the flu on here, and people saying they are more scared of the flu, etc. I call BS on that. Nobody is really scared of the flu. Nobody wants to get it, but if you do, your chances of dying from it are very low. Ebola, while not as infectious, is far more likely to kill you if you get it. If you get the flu, you aren't scared; if you get ebola, you will be terrified - no way around that. People's fear of ebola is obviously based on their understanding that they must do anything and everything in their power to avoid getting it.

There have also been many statements to the effect that America can handle this virus better than a third-world county. In some respects, I’m sure that’s true. In other respects, I think the opposite is true. For one thing, people travel much more broadly and quickly here than they do in a third-world country. There are thousands of flights all around this country every day, and that could lead to a quick distribution of the disease by one single person. Also, although our health system has the capacity to respond well on the front-end, if the disease spreads to a certain point, it will overwhelm the system. There aren’t that many hospitals that have the negative pressure rooms, etc., to handle this disease. If the outbreak goes beyond our capacity, it would be bad.

I also think people's reactions are based, in part, on the fact that the CDC's comments are, on their face, misleading, if not outright lies. For example, I saw the CDC guy on the news this morning. He was asked about stopping flights from infected areas of West Africa. His response was, essentially, that we can’t cut these countries off from aid or it will make matters worse and possibly increase the problem. Wow, I guess he thinks we’re idiots, and many people are, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see through that preposterous response. The CDC is also on record as saying that there is zero chance that anyone on the plane with the infected patient contracted ebola. Again, wow.

And finally, it is known that the infected person walked around with symptoms for about 5 days before being admitted to the hospital and quarantined. Maybe he didn’t come into contact with anyone during that time, when he was openly contagious. What are the odds of that?

Is it time to panic? Probably not. But if you’re not concerned at this point, then in my opinion you are wearing blinders.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
That's because most of the general public act irrationally and freak out over nothing.
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First it's not "nothing". Second I agree with your point and will add that the administration (fed government) should realize and understand this. Thus enacting travel bans to protect our idiot citizens from themselves if nothing else.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I am in full agreement. My best friend is an Infectious Disease specialist in NO and he and I talk weekly about Ebola. He and his colleagues are surprised it has taken this long to show up here. He has pretty much said the same thing you have, people are freaking out and its unnecessary.

I think there are people who seriously believe its airborne. Also although this outbreak is bad, its kind of local in actuality. Also the mortality rate is not as bad as some think. You're right about the flu.
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I've seen this movie....






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If this guy was symptomatic for 4 days in the general public and possibly using public restrooms and paying for things with cash, then I don't see why he wouldn't be spreading the disease.
 
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davethevol said:
If this guy was symptomatic for 4 days in the general public and possibly using public restrooms and paying for things with cash, then I don't see why he wouldn't be spreading the disease.
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Yep, not a dang soul raises the lid anymore.
 
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And another thing, for all you folks convinced at how well the US medical community will handle ebola, explain this: a guy recently traveling from Liberia comes into your hospital with all of the syptoms of ebola, and the doctors (who fail to put 2 and 2 together) give him antibiotics (ineffective against any virus, let alone ebola) and send him on his merry way, and he then spends several infectious days out in the wild. Not a stellar response, I'd say.

Ebola is in America: Dallas man is diagnosed with disease AFTER return from Africa in first case found on U.S. soil. Now in isolation but he MAY have infected others | Daily Mail Online
 
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jamesd1628 said:
And another thing, for all you folks convinced at how well the US medical community will handle ebola, explain this: a guy recently traveling from Liberia comes into your hospital with all of the syptoms of ebola, and the doctors (who fail to put 2 and 2 together) give him antibiotics (ineffective against any virus, let alone ebola) and send him on his merry way, and he then spends several infectious days out in the wild. Not a stellar response, I'd say.

Ebola is in America: Dallas man is diagnosed with disease AFTER return from Africa in first case found on U.S. soil. Now in isolation but he MAY have infected others | Daily Mail Online
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Antibiotics is always the go to prescription for almost anything, most of our doctors wouldn't recognize an Ebola patient if they walked into their office.
 
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hog88 said:
Antibiotics is always the go to prescription for almost anything, most of our doctors wouldn't recognize an Ebola patient if they walked into their office.
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All very true. Which raises the question of why you have so much confidence in the American medical community to fight an outbreak.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
All very true. Which raises the question of why you have so much confidence in the American medical community to fight an outbreak.
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I don't. Heck my wife is having a stomach issue that (as of now) 3 doctors have not been able to figure out.

No it's not Ebola.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
All very true. Which raises the question of why you have so much confidence in the American medical community to fight an outbreak.
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hog88 said:
I don't. Heck my wife is having a stomach issue that (as of now) 3 doctors have not been able to figure out.

No it's not Ebola.
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I then redirect the question to those in the thread who do have great confidence in our medical community to fight this.
 
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hog88 said:
I don't. Heck my wife is having a stomach issue that (as of now) 3 doctors have not been able to figure out.

No it's not Ebola.
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Hog stop wasting your money taking her to different doctors, it is obvious she has a decision to make., to be a Hog or not. If she chooses to remain a Hog she will be living on Valium or she could walk and live a normal life. See how easy that was :)
















Seriously I wish your wife the best of health. There are some very good doctors in Nashville, hopefully they will locate the problem and make her better.
 
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Coug said:
A direct result of not banning outgoing and incoming flights from these heavily infected areas.
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Not effective. When I was in Nigeria (granted it was 32 years ago) I returned from Lagos via London. Are you going to turn everyone back that has been in an impact zone within the past 7, 10, or 14 days?
 
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