Hilary critizes Obama

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lawgator1 said:
People once again using a particular crisis to insinuate that the battle is religious, rather than political. How many times has the world seen that mistake?

Countless. Guess there's no reason dumb people shouldn't be duped into it again.
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Do you own stock in KY? If not, you should.
 
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lawgator1 said:
People once again using a particular crisis to insinuate that the battle is religious, rather than political. How many times has the world seen that mistake?

Countless. Guess there's no reason dumb people shouldn't be duped into it again.
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Screech
 
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lawgator1 said:
People once again using a particular crisis to insinuate that the battle is religious, rather than political. How many times has the world seen that mistake?

Countless. Guess there's no reason dumb people shouldn't be duped into it again.
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Do you know anything about ISIS?

Look at what they are doing in the name of Islam. Killing and forcing Christians to leave. Marking their homes:

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Killing and enslaving Yazidis:

ISIS Kills at Least 500 Yazidi in Iraq, Buries Some Alive: Reuters - NBC News

How is this "political" and, "What difference, at this point,does it matter?"

Based on your argument, if the US would only leave the area all will be well, this would not change ISIS and what they are doing and will do if the world lets them. It's too late to apologize for whatever transgressions you believe "caused" this.

Didn't Obama do that already?
 
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37L1 said:
Do you know anything about ISIS?

Look at what they are doing in the name of Islam. Killing and forcing Christians to leave. Marking their homes:

isis-mosul.jpg


Killing and enslaving Yazidis:

ISIS Kills at Least 500 Yazidi in Iraq, Buries Some Alive: Reuters - NBC News

How is this "political" and, "What difference, at this point,does it matter?"

Based on your argument, if the US would only leave the area all will be well, this would not change ISIS and what they are doing and will do if the world lets them. It's too late to apologize for whatever transgressions you believe "caused" this.

Didn't Obama do that already?
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Who says we are the only ones being pressed to conclude that all Muslims are the enemy? Same applies to them. Those fomenting the violence promote the conflation of Christianity with western political forces.
 
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Gramps said:
This squashes any doubt of her running in 2016, imo. She is breaking away from the Obama Administration.
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It makes no difference. As long as the sheep see a (D) in front of her name, they will vote for her. She's the only big name out there on the democratic side.

Hillary 2016
 
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lawgator1 said:
Who says we are the only ones being pressed to conclude that all Muslims are the enemy? Same applies to them. Those fomenting the violence promote the conflation of Christianity with western political forces.
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It is not just Christianity to them, it is all things not Islam and only their "brand" of Islam. All others are apostates.

You can't be that dense, can you?
 
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37L1 said:
It is not just Christianity to them, it is all things not Islam and only their "brand" of Islam. All others are apostates.

You can't be that dense, can you?
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Don't bother. LG Wont listen. He's too busy slurping up the failure of a foreign policy his Savior has.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It makes no difference. As long as the sheep see a (D) in front of her name, they will vote for her. She's the only big name out there on the democratic side.

Hillary 2016
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Sure the D's will vote for whomever has the D beside their name, same as the R's will vote for whomever has a R beside their name. That will not get either one elected, neither side has the % to win. The moderate voters are who elects the POTUS. I will go a step beyond that and say a small number of the moderate voters in 6-8 states determines who wins.
 
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Gramps said:
Sure the D's will vote for whomever has the D beside their name, same as the R's will vote for whomever has a R beside their name. That will not get either one elected, neither side has the % to win. The moderate voters are who elects the POTUS. I will go a step beyond that and say a small number of the moderate voters in 6-8 states determines who wins.
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Short term the divide is so narrow, and concentrated in a handful of states, that it comes down to which side is motivated the most to show up and to help people get to the polls.

Long term the divide is going to widen, in favor of the Dems, due to demographic shifts. If the GOP cannot figure out a way to quiet it's natural base of angry whites, and to attract more than a handful of minorities, they run the risk of permanently handing the WH to the other side.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Short term the divide is so narrow, and concentrated in a handful of states, that it comes down to which side is motivated the most to show up and to help people get to the polls.

Long term the divide is going to widen, in favor of the Dems, due to demographic shifts. If the GOP cannot figure out a way to quiet it's natural base of angry whites, and to attract more than a handful of minorities, they run the risk of permanently handing the WH to the other side.
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Screech
 
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lawgator1 said:
Short term the divide is so narrow, and concentrated in a handful of states, that it comes down to which side is motivated the most to show up and to help people get to the polls.

Long term the divide is going to widen, in favor of the Dems, due to demographic shifts. If the GOP cannot figure out a way to quiet it's natural base of angry whites, and to attract more than a handful of minorities, they run the risk of permanently handing the WH to the other side.
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The Democratic party: enslaving uneducated lazy people since the 1930s
 
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lawgator1 said:
Short term the divide is so narrow, and concentrated in a handful of states, that it comes down to which side is motivated the most to show up and to help people get to the polls.

Long term the divide is going to widen, in favor of the Dems, due to demographic shifts. If the GOP cannot figure out a way to quiet it's natural base of angry whites, and to attract more than a handful of minorities, they run the risk of permanently handing the WH to the other side.
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Contrary to what several posters on here believe the far right Tea Party group has done tremendous harm to the Republican Party. Sure they will win their gerrymandered districts but they had a terrible senate primary season.
 
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Gramps said:
Contrary to what several posters on here believe the far right Tea Party group has done tremendous harm to the Republican Party. Sure they will win their gerrymandered districts but they had a terrible senate primary season.
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I wish I knew why you hated the tea party so bad, I mean, I know why my in laws do, they are liberals, but you??

They are scared of them and their influence. They are scared that people will listen to them, actually understand that, the tea party, is for all folks- no matter the color of their skin.

Gramps- are you truly a moderate? Be honest please. The only folks I know that get angry over the tea party are far left loons.
 
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Obsessed said:
I wish I knew why you hated the tea party so bad, I mean, I know why my in laws do, they are liberals, but you??

They are scared of them and their influence. They are scared that people will listen to them, actually understand that, the tea party, is for all folks- no matter the color of their skin.

Gramps- are you truly a moderate? Be honest please. The only folks I know that get angry over the tea party are far left loons.
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You know why? He's a Dem, he just lives in a part of the state where he's afraid to admit it.
 
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Gramps said:
Contrary to what several posters on here believe the far right Tea Party group has done tremendous harm to the Republican Party.
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I don't think you are going to find many people here that support the Tea Party movement that really care how they affect the GOP. I don't understand this "contrary to what several posters on here believe" statement. I think at this point, it is pretty much established that they are 2 unique groups.
 
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Obsessed said:
I wish I knew why you hated the tea party so bad, I mean, I know why my in laws do, they are liberals, but you??

They are scared of them and their influence. They are scared that people will listen to them, actually understand that, the tea party, is for all folks- no matter the color of their skin.

Gramps- are you truly a moderate? Be honest please. The only folks I know that get angry over the tea party are far left loons.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I don't think you are going to find many people here that support the Tea Party movement that really care how they affect the GOP. I don't understand this "contrary to what several posters on here believe" statement. I think at this point, it is pretty much established that they are 2 unique groups.
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Tea party hates black women too...


Feel justified?
 
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Obsessed said:
I wish I knew why you hated the tea party so bad, I mean, I know why my in laws do, they are liberals, but you??

They are scared of them and their influence. They are scared that people will listen to them, actually understand that, the tea party, is for all folks- no matter the color of their skin.

Gramps- are you truly a moderate? Be honest please. The only folks I know that get angry over the tea party are far left loons.
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I think all the loses the Tea Party suffered in Senate loses tells what most Americans think of the Tea Party overall.

The GOP would be in control of the Senate today if so many tea party lunatics had not been nominated in 2010 and 2012. The GOP has not nominated the lunatics in 2014 and should regain control of the senate.

There are some good members of the Tea Party then there are the lunatics that hurts the cause. The Tea Party was formed with good ideas, then was hijacked by some real wackos.

I am leaning towards Rand Paul in 2016, he is Tea Party. I would not vote for Ted Cruz to be our local dog catcher.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I don't think you are going to find many people here that support the Tea Party movement that really care how they affect the GOP. I don't understand this "contrary to what several posters on here believe" statement. I think at this point, it is pretty much established that they are 2 unique groups.
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There are several posters on here that do strongly support the Tea Party . that is why I said "several".
 
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Gramps said:
There are several posters on here that do strongly support the Tea Party . that is why I said "several".
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I realize they are here, but how many of them really are concerned about how the Tea Party will help or hurt the GOP? You seemed to insinuate (by saying "contrary to what several believe") that a Tea Party supporter is concerned about the success of the GOP. I disagree with that assertion.
 
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