'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

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This is where you have it all wrong. Those of us who are supporting Gibson are doing so because of what CBJ and the coaching staff obviously have seen. You have this convoluted stance that every recruiting service and coaching staff of major D-1 programs are wrong and you're right. I base my opinion off of what our coaching staff thinks. They seem to be very high on Gibson. It's very obvious that they see something special in Gibson. Why is that hard for you to understand?

You like everybody else n this board really doesn't know what kind of system we are going to run. What if CBJ changes his system to take advantage of the strengths of his players? How do you know this won't happen? Our coaching staff believes that Gibson fits in our offensive scheme or they wouldn't be pushing so hard for him. Now if for some reason we back off recruiting him then I will assume that CBJ knows what he is doing and accept it. It just so happens that a guy our staff is very interested in is also a highly rated player.

Like with Creamer, I think our coaches are saying one thing and will do another. I think they are recruiting Gibson as a QB to make him happy. Once signs, words go out the window. All it is, is a pitch. Salesmen do this all the time.

I admire and respect LV for saying what he says despite what others think. America is kinda missing that.
 
Like with Creamer, I think our coaches are saying one thing and will do another. I think they are recruiting Gibson as a QB to make him happy. Once signs, words go out the window. All it is, is a pitch. Salesmen do this all the time.

I admire and respect LV for saying what he says despite what others think. America is kinda missing that.

Are you saying butch is a liar?
 
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I swear this discussion was darn near similar between Newton and Simms. Lord, I hope this one doesn't end that way.

Ughh...Don't remind me

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This is where you have it all wrong. Those of us who are supporting Gibson are doing so because of what CBJ and the coaching staff obviously have seen. You have this convoluted stance that every recruiting service and coaching staff of major D-1 programs are wrong and you're right. I base my opinion off of what our coaching staff thinks. They seem to be very high on Gibson. It's very obvious that they see something special in Gibson. Why is that hard for you to understand?

You like everybody else n this board really doesn't know what kind of system we are going to run. What if CBJ changes his system to take advantage of the strengths of his players? How do you know this won't happen? Our coaching staff believes that Gibson fits in our offensive scheme or they wouldn't be pushing so hard for him. Now if for some reason we back off recruiting him then I will assume that CBJ knows what he is doing and accept it. It just so happens that a guy our staff is very interested in is also a highly rated player.

Maybe you know what CBJ is thinking and who he would take a commitment from today and who he would not. A lot of folks swore a couple OL guys and a DT were sure takes just recently. When they were not, the "WTH" reading was great stuff. Noone can be sure what the staff is thinking. Opinions and different opinions make it interesting.
 
Me too.

It sucks to see a kid you could have had win a ring.

And yes I do believe Newton would.have come here.

We didn't offer enough money. There was a rumor that LK offered 75 grand for cam. Once auburn out bid him, we got Simms. Simms would of turned out better with real coaching. He was a five star qb in hs.
 
Are you saying butch is a liar?

I'm saying what the words are, and what reality is can be quite different. Why that is, is something we will never know.

It's like Tyndall saying we won't take renegades and taking McKnight. Coach speak is what we refer it to.
 
We didn't offer enough money. There was a rumor that LK offered 75 grand for cam. Once auburn out bid him, we got Simms. Simms would of turned out better with real coaching. He was a five star qb in hs.

Rumors are rumors.

He was cleared.

We would have one a hell of a lot of games but ole.well.
 
I'm saying what the words are, and what reality is can be quite different. Why that is, is something we will never know.

It's like Tyndall saying we won't take renegades and taking McKnight. Coach speak is what we refer it to.

Not a fan at all. Coaches can do things the right way and still win. If a coach has to lie to a recruit to sign him, why bother? The transfer % goes WAY up doing business like that. The bad pub is not worth the headaches IMO. If your recruiting them for QB, tell them AND be honest with the other recruits. If your going to "sign" them at QB and move them to WR 22 minutes into practice #1, just tell them you see them as a WR. A happier recruit will perform better. Don't lie just to get a signature. JMO
 
Rumors are rumors.

He was cleared.

We would have one a hell of a lot of games but ole.well.

All rumors are loosely based in truth. Being cleared by the NCAA in a investigation is like a man telling his wife she's not fat despite gaining a few pounds over the years.
 
TG is listed as an ATH for the Opening. I assume he is going to play WR there as well. Maybe he s done a few 7 on 7s in the past as QB and didn't do too well?

His style of play at QB is to do quick passes and pass on the run, which is opposite for the The 7 on 7s.

So he is already slated to play WR at the Opening? Maybe he does show up then. I stand corrected.
 
I'm saying what the words are, and what reality is can be quite different. Why that is, is something we will never know.

It's like Tyndall saying we won't take renegades and taking McKnight. Coach speak is what we refer it to.

I get that but I dont see butch being that guy.

Yea tg we have you at qb well lets line u up at linebacker.

Sorry just cant see it.

I do believe they have mentioned wr to a degree seeing that Z is his recruiter
 
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Not a fan at all. Coaches can do things the right way and still win. If a coach has to lie to a recruit to sign him, why bother? The transfer % goes WAY up doing business like that. The bad pub is not worth the headaches IMO. If your recruiting them for QB, tell them AND be honest with the other recruits. If your going to "sign" them at QB and move them to WR 22 minutes into practice #1, just tell them you see them as a WR. A happier recruit will perform better. Don't lie just to get a signature. JMO

I bet 90% of all D-1 coaches lie about something to get a signature. We live in a society that lies to itself. These lies can include a position promise, immediate playing time, or simply promising to be around.
 
Like with Creamer, I think our coaches are saying one thing and will do another. I think they are recruiting Gibson as a QB to make him happy. Once signs, words go out the window. All it is, is a pitch. Salesmen do this all the time.

I admire and respect LV for saying what he says despite what others think. America is kinda missing that.

I haven't seen any proof of that but if that's what CBJ is doing then I am fine with that. I have always said I support whatever CBJ has for Gibson.
 
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