'15 TN DE Kyle Phillips (UT commit 1/3/15)

#578
#578
LebanonVolunteer said:
Yup. It's really that simple. Win a bowl game and kids see progress and recruiting continues to see a boost. Win 5 games and IMO it would be a disaster going forward.
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Agreed. Make a bowl game and I think we pull a top 5 class again. Another bowl-less season could take some of the wind out of the sails imo.
 
#584
#584
FirstAndGoal said:
Just beat the damn Gators. That should do it. :good!:
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And buy out Oklahoma like yesterday, no matter how cowardly we look right now or how adverse it is to scheduling someone else. Nobody will care in three months when the season is in full swing and especially when we're playing somewhere sunny and warm in January.

Horrible mistake to schedule Oklahoma and you can't convince me otherwise.
 
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#585
#585
engineerVOL said:
And buy out Oklahoma like yesterday, no matter how cowardly we look right now or how adverse it is to scheduling someone else. Nobody will care in three months when the season is in full swing and especially when we're playing somewhere sunny and warm in January.

Horrible mistake to schedule Oklahoma and you can't convince me otherwise.
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I don't know man, I like that we schedule about one tough non-conference opponent every year. It just makes for good football, and I think it ultimately helps recruiting. Also, think about the experience that our younger guys will get from this game that will help them later in the year and in the years to come. I do slightly agree with though in that I wish we were playing them when we are really good. We do get to play them again in Knoxville next year. So even if we lose to them we might learn from it and exact some payback in Neyland.
 
#586
#586
engineerVOL said:
And buy out Oklahoma like yesterday, no matter how cowardly we look right now or how adverse it is to scheduling someone else. Nobody will care in three months when the season is in full swing and especially when we're playing somewhere sunny and warm in January.

Horrible mistake to schedule Oklahoma and you can't convince me otherwise.
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Don't need to convince you...bought my tickets. :thumbsup: GET OVER IT!!!


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#587
#587
JDisThereThere said:
I don't know man, I like that we schedule about one tough non-conference opponent every year. It just makes for good football, and I think it ultimately helps recruiting. Also, think about the experience that our younger guys will get from this game that will help them later in the year and in the years to come. I do slightly agree with though in that I wish we were playing them when we are really good. We do get to play them again in Knoxville next year. So even if we lose to them we might learn from it and exact some payback in Neyland.
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I guess i just see other schools in our shape buying their way into post-season play by scheduling cupcakes. Tennessee has plenty of good opponents to appease fans and until we create 16-team super conferences where we play tough opponents week in and week out, i want to take advantage of powder-puffs.

The last 5 years have taught me that our team learned nothing from getting pounded. Color me jaded.
 
#588
#588
butchna said:
Don't need to convince you...bought my tickets. :thumbsup: GET OVER IT!!!


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Mad respect for you following the VOLS to Norman. Been there, done that. Followed this team across country and back. Hope we pull it off.

But I'm satisfied with the rigors the SEC schedule offers, i just want wins. I want this team to have the extra practices at the end of the year and I see this Oklahoma game specifically as an impediment to our team getting that. If we schedule Direction School U then maybe we get to play that quality opponent in a bowl game that we fans enjoy.
 
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#589
#589
engineerVOL said:
I guess i just see other schools in our shape buying their way into post-season play by scheduling cupcakes. Tennessee has plenty of good opponents to appease fans and until we create 16-team super conferences where we play tough opponents week in and week out, i want to take advantage of powder-puffs.

The last 5 years have taught me that our team learned nothing from getting pounded. Color me jaded.
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I do understand your point. Just because I liked the fact that we scheduled Oregon didn't make me any less pissed that they ran us off the field two times in a row.
 
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#590
JDisThereThere said:
I do understand your point. Just because I liked the fact that we scheduled Oregon didn't make me any less pissed that they ran us off the field two times in a row.
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I see your perspective. I do. Just seems like fun for fans, bad for the team. I know why we do it, to market the University to the Midwest. But you look for advantages everywhere and our SOS is irrelevant until we're in the BCS hunt and even then our schedule would speak for itself with or without Oklahoma.
 
#591
#591
engineerVOL said:
Mad respect for you following the VOLS to Norman. Been there, done that. Followed this team across country and back. Hope we pull it off.

But I'm satisfied with the rigors the SEC schedule offers, i just want wins. I want this team to have the extra practices at the end of the year and I see this Oklahoma game specifically as an impediment to our team getting that. If we schedule Direction School U then maybe we get to play that quality opponent in a bowl game that we fans enjoy.
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This kind of thing just isn't done this close to the game date...and with it being on the ESPN schedule...at least not by anyone not named Dooley/Hamilton.
 
#593
#593
engineerVOL said:
I see your perspective. I do. Just seems like fun for fans, bad for the team. I know why we do it, to market the University to the Midwest. But you look for advantages everywhere and our SOS is irrelevant until we're in the BCS hunt and even then our schedule would speak for itself with or without Oklahoma.
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Oh I agree that the SEC is hard enough as it is. Honestly, I'm not near as worried about OU as I was about Oregon last year. I knew we were gonna get trounced in Autzen. Thing about a Bob Stoops coached football team is you sort of never know what you're going to get. They may look invincible or they may be just mediocre. They remind me of UGA under Richt for about the past decade in that you know that you're going to be playing against elite talent but you never know how well they will play.
 
#594
#594
On the OU game, for a lot of reasons, here's a result from a few years back that I think will be an apt comparison point. If the results are like this, just remind yourself we are young, taking our lumps and the future is very very bright...

scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=302540201
 
#595
#595
It's not a big deal if we lose a bowl game, we just have to make a bowl game. Some of those scheduled games are not evenly matched, I think if we make a bowl game we get matched with a very good team
 
#597
#597
butchna said:
This kind of thing just isn't done this close to the game date...and with it being on the ESPN schedule...at least not by anyone not named Dooley/Hamilton.
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Oh I know just making my point. I don't really care as much as it seems here sorry I brought it up.
 
#598
#598
engineerVOL said:
Oh I know just making my point. I don't really care as much as it seems here sorry I brought it up.
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When Tony Basillio was harping on the same issue last year regarding Oregon...I had the same position...I do see your point,but it's not just about what fans and the media would think of us ducking out on an agreed upon game...it's what the players and coaches would be representing...if it's too tough and might affect our bowl chances?...quit...And Butch played OK when he was HC at Cincy...why wuss out at his DREAM JOB?...inconsistent :question:
 
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