Riley Ferguson appears to be gone

[OrangeDog]

Well, if we all waited for facts and no opinions, I think VN would go out of business, because there would be no posts in any of these threads.

That's just your opinion......... which by the way is WAY off base.

That's the most ridiculous post of the day. IMHO!!!

 

[OrangeDog]

Would someone please fill me in on past 43 pages. Is he gone because of grades or because of something else

Heroin addiction. Going to play for the Charlotte Hornets.

He didn't want to do the work and wanted the job handed to him.

They hid the starting position in his work ethic boots.

He sexually assaulted a girl with shoplifted crab legs is what I herd.

All just rumors. He was in classes this morning. I have Basket weaving and History of Rock-n-Roll with him.

 

[VolAllen]

All just rumors. He was in classes this morning. I have Basket weaving and History of Rock-n-Roll with him.

He developed a tumor while smoking rocks and playing basketball?? Poor kid.

 

[sanddune50]

If stats from the Orange and White game were any indication of future success, Jonathon Crompton should have been a Heisman winner

I can't believe people actually point out stats from a glorified practice

Vereen had 27 sacks.

 

[CountVolcula]

Vereen had 27 sacks.

#1 defense

 

[JohnnyBall]

He had no pocket presents, but he did play pocket pool

Gifts in his pants?

 

[perico]

IF RF was emotionally unstable a great deal would depend on how unstable. UT has student mental health services (open to every student) which include counseling, often by psychologists (PhDs) as well as psychiatrists (MDs with psych specialization). Psychiatrists aren't for talk so much as determine whether or not you need a Rx (some conditions do require that) and also those with other issues that many don't think of as mental illness so much as a developmental ones like ADD, Autism, and many others can get their Rx written by the psychiatrist because most students with preexisting conditions lose their doctors when they go off to college (psych is a lot bigger field than many think) - they need a Psych (MD) and the university makes one available.

The same is true for the student health center where other medical issues are treated everything from strep throat, ear infection etc. Doctors will see students there, Dx an infection (or whatever) and treat them for it.

IOW, *if* were unwell there are both counseling and a Psych who can write the right psychiatric drug for conditions that require it. He could've received regular treatment from one or both if he chose to and if he was afraid of the stigma, no one on the team or staff need know.



Where did you hear this???

Ainge this morning.

 

[sjt18]

Haha you're right. As much as I post on here, some would think that I'm unemployed. Funny thing is, I actually own and operate two locksmith businesses in South Carolina....I'm just an addict of the VolTalk! I'm always on mobile but i'm always working while VolNationing lol

I avg 10-12 hrs per day managing a business location with significant revenues and safety concerns. I grant myself a break here and there too. Need to get my mind off of things for a minute or two.

 

[DC Vol]

If stats from the Orange and White game were any indication of future success, Jonathon Crompton should have been a Heisman winner

I can't believe people actually point out stats from a glorified practice

Yeah, see, Crompton didn't look that good in the 2009 O&W game:

Jonathan Crompton completed 14 of his 27 passes for 143 yards and a 16-yard touchdown to Austin Rogers on his last drive of the game. He was also responsible for the offense's lone turnover - an interception that went right to linebacker Rico McCoy.

Just over 50% with a 5.2YPA and 1/1 TD/INT.

Those aren't good QB stats in my view. Are they to you?

 

[sjt18]

But those things WERE NECESSARY to take the job, especially when the difference
in on the field performance wa a bit exaggerated. Riley had the best arm of the bunch and could hit all the throws, but Dobbs can as well. Dobbs was arguably stronger at reading the defense and was better running the ball.

Worley may not have the natural tools as Dobbs or Riley, but he's the leader of the team and has the best combo of leadership ability on the field and the intangibles.

If you lead in one direction, you want your teammates to support you and follow. Being a premadonna and expecting to be coddled isn't going to win you the job if you are not head and shoulders above the rest. Fergy may have been talented, but he wasn't good enough to seperate himself from the rest.

You took that comment too far.

I have never bought into the notion that the guy we have NEVER seen was the best QB... based pretty much on the notion that the others "ain't no good".

First, I have consistently said I like all the QB's and would gladly pull for any of them. Unlike many, I think all 4 have the physical talent to be good SEC QB's or better.

Second, I have said for awhile that the only time Worley has not gone out first with the 1's since last spring was when he was hurt. Jones wants competition and doesn't like depth charts... but it seems clear that Worley has been #1 with everyone else chasing and failing to overtake him.

Last, I have decided that I like Dobbs' game the best of them all- intelligence, running ability, attitude, throwing ability, ability to deliver on the run, ability to extend plays, work ethic... My heart does go to a Sr who wants to finish his career on an uptick. But I look forward to seeing Dobbs as "the guy".

 

[perico]

You took that comment too far.

I have never bought into the notion that the guy we have NEVER seen was the best QB... based pretty much on the notion that the others "ain't no good".

First, I have consistently said I like all the QB's and would gladly pull for any of them. Unlike many, I think all 4 have the physical talent to be good SEC QB's or better.

Second, I have said for awhile that the only time Worley has not gone out first with the 1's since last spring was when he was hurt. Jones wants competition and doesn't like depth charts... but it seems clear that Worley has been #1 with everyone else chasing and failing to overtake him.

Last, I have decided that I like Dobbs' game the best of them all- intelligence, running ability, attitude, throwing ability, ability to deliver on the run, ability to extend plays, work ethic... My heart does go to a Sr who wants to finish his career on an uptick. But I look forward to seeing Dobbs as "the guy".

That's basically where I'm at as well.

 

[BruiserVol]

Riley Ferguson was the only quarterback not elected into the players staff by his teammates. Not a good sign. Every time Riley went home to NC it was a battle to get him to come back to Knoxville.
Butch Jones has said, “Playing QB at UT is a ‘Global Position’ and Riley could never understand that.”

Well then...

 

[sjt18]

This makes me nervous because arm strength is for the most part a God-given quality.

It's like saying such and such pitcher is gonna be great when he adds 10 mph to his fastball.

Not really. Dobbs wasn't even finished growing when he arrived and played. He's added bulk.

There is a technique to throwing a football. While arm strength and such are somewhat innate... learning to use your legs and just plain getting stronger are not.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Yeah, see, Crompton didn't look that good in the 2009 O&W game:



Just over 50% with a 5.2YPA and 1/1 TD/INT.

Those aren't good QB stats in my view. Are they to you?

Apparently those are Heisman numbers lol:

 

[sjt18]

I thought that because of football reasons depth charts and what coaches said. I was right. If he was urge best one in practice he wouldn't be leaving. He is turnover prone and had been all spring.

If he believed he was the best one in practice but Jones disagreed then that would motivate him to leave. If I were to hazard a guess... that would be it.

 

[armchair]

After reading this board for several months, RF decided that he was too good for SEC football and should go straight to the NFL.

 

[sameolvol]

Well, if we all waited for facts and no opinions, I think VN would go out of business, because there would be no posts in any of these threads.

Sad perspective there, Billy. So you'd rather spend your time doing golly wally over rumors, as opposed to dealing with facts? It's OK. If VN goes away, you can always look forward to your soap opry's.:cray::cray::cray:

 

[MustafaRasta]

He never was technically a Butch Jones recruit. Riley committed to Dooley's staff. Much like most staff's that take over a program Butch tried to keep previously committed recruits on board so to not have a completely disastrous class. Having the best upside is one thing, having the demeanor to go with it is quite another. Dooley took guys that had a lot of growing up to do and did little to help them on their journey. Butch seems to go after team oriented guys who contribute to help the program and not just themselves. I'm not sure if Butch had the entire 2013 recruiting season to work with if Riley would've ended up at UT with other options on the table.

great post

 

[DC Vol]

Apparently those are Heisman numbers lol:

Eh, lets just make baseless and sweeping statements based on no actual facts but purely rooted in hyperbole because this is VN and this is how things are done.

Point being, with no real QB1 identified... this should have been the game for Ferg to ball out and prove the QB1 job is his. He had his shot with the 1s against the 1s. And Worley, Worley, outplayed him soundly.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. But Worley still outplayed him. 11-13 151 yards and a TD.

What did Ferg do against the 1s and 2s combined? [FONT=&quot]7-12 83 yards 1 TD 1 INT 1 Fum[/FONT]. That isn't going to unseat Worley.

So if Worley benefits from the raised physicality against QBs then why didn't Ferg?

The comparison to Crompton's O&W game was apt, I'll give him that much.

 

[vols-1]

We knew someone was expendable when they signed Mike Wegzyn. Turns out it was Ferguson .

 

[butchna]

We knew someone was expendable when they signed Mike Wegzyn. Turns out it was Ferguson .

When they let him walk-on you mean??

 

[sanddune50]

I avg 10-12 hrs per day managing a business location with significant revenues and safety concerns. I grant myself a break here and there too. Need to get my mind off of things for a minute or two.

I started an operating system that I released that changed the way the world does business.

 

[butchna]

I started an operating system that I released that changed the way the world does business.

You stole everything from Steve Jobs...and now you donate 5000 to playground funds while paying 14 mil for a Da Vinci sketch. :rtfm:

 

[KBVol]

You stole everything from Steve Jobs...and now you donate 5000 to playground funds while paying 14 mil for a Da Vinci sketch. :rtfm:

I see you hold Mr Gates in the regard as I do Butchy 😊

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Eh, lets just make baseless and sweeping statements based on no actual facts but purely rooted in hyperbole because this is VN and this is how things are done.

Point being, with no real QB1 identified... this should have been the game for Ferg to ball out and prove the QB1 job is his. He had his shot with the 1s against the 1s. And Worley, Worley, outplayed him soundly.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. But Worley still outplayed him. 11-13 151 yards and a TD.

What did Ferg do against the 1s and 2s combined? [FONT=&quot]7-12 83 yards 1 TD 1 INT 1 Fum[/FONT]. That isn't going to unseat Worley.

So if Worley benefits from the raised physicality against QBs then why didn't Ferg?

The comparison to Crompton's O&W game was apt, I'll give him that much.

Oh I totally agree with you :good!: