Police chief won't apologize for calling Obama ....

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CNCVol88 said:
You wouldn't see LeBron James getting bent out of shape if JayZ called him an n-word. In fact it's probably commonplace. The moment one of them accused the other of being an uncle Tom, all hell would break loose. It's equally offensive to a black man if a white man were to call him an uncle Tom. To me, that would make it more offensive. There's no double standard to it. It's universally offensive.
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This thread was about an 82 year-old white police chief referring to the POTUS the n-word.

You and I both know Jay-Z using the n-word with Lebron has an entirely different meaning.

Whether it SHOULD have the same meaning is a different discussion altogether.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
the n word, its everywhere
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The n-word has different meaning to different people, and it's interpreted differently by who says it and who it's directed towards.

In the case of the 82 year-old police chief it's safe to say his use of the word was not as a term of endearment towards the president.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
This thread was about an 82 year-old white police chief referring to the POTUS the n-word.

You and I both know Jay-Z using the n-word with Lebron has an entirely different meaning.

Whether it SHOULD have the same meaning is a different discussion altogether.
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And I'm not getting the fauxrage.
 
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utvolpj said:
it does if you're the Senate majority leader describing why Obama is palatable to the American public. But hey, I bet this commissioner holds a lot of sway on national political decisions right?
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No, no. I'm agreeing with you that those remarks are racially insensitive. Even offensive. I'm saying there is a big difference between them and the "n" word.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Haha have you not seen some of the things said about black conservatives? White liberals get a complete pass on anything they say toward black conservatives.
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When did this become a liberal/conservative issue?

82 year-old white police chief calls the POTUS the worst racial slur you can call a black person.

What does political affiliation have to do with it?
 
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This thread reminds me of this scene from Clerks 2

NSFW

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWdVwt2deY4[/youtube]
 
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lawgator1 said:
No, no. I'm agreeing with you that those remarks are racially insensitive. Even offensive. I'm saying there is a big difference between them and the "n" word.
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and Reid's is worse since he actually has a microphone. You know full well if a TP member said he expected Obama to speak with a negro dialect you'd have a thread up within 30sec calling the entire group racist.

this is simply some random old guy in a town of 6,000 people. His remarks do not matter one bit
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Neither am I.

I'm on record as saying the old guy shouldn't be made to give a half-assed apology he doesn't mean, if he truly thinks of the president as he stated.
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To me, the lack of an apology is really beside the point.

To me, its a question of:

1) Allowing your town to be represented in any way by someone who would say something so utterly dumb, and so offensive;

2) The fact that he "has criteria" whereby he decides a person is worthy of the title; and,

3) He hasn't resigned and instead seems to want to further stick his thumb in the collective eye of an entire race.


He has to go.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
When did this become a liberal/conservative issue?

82 year-old white police chief calls the POTUS the worst racial slur you can call a black person.

What does political affiliation have to do with it?
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Cause it probably wouldn't be national news if some no name Democrat called condi rice or Herman Cain the same. It's sad but true.
 
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lawgator1 said:
To me, the lack of an apology is really beside the point.

To me, its a question of:

1) Allowing your town to be represented in any way by someone who would say something so utterly dumb, and so offensive;

2) The fact that he "has criteria" whereby he decides a person is worthy of the title; and,

3) He hasn't resigned and instead seems to want to further stick his thumb in the collective eye of an entire race.


He has to go.
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where were you when Nagin coined the "Chocolate City" phrase? Oh it was ok since he's black and all.
 
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utvolpj said:
and Reid's is worse since he actually has a microphone. You know full well if a TP member said he expected Obama to speak with a negro dialect you'd have a thread up within 30sec calling the entire group racist.

this is simply some random old guy in a town of 6,000 people. His remarks do not matter one bit
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Matter? I guess that's relative.

For me, it reinforces my belief that there are still people out there, many of them, who are so hateful and bigoted that they so cavalierly put aside basic manners, not to mention respect for the office (his own and Obama's) that he would say such a thing ... and then stick with it!
 
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lawgator1 said:
To me, the lack of an apology is really beside the point.

To me, its a question of:

1) Allowing your town to be represented in any way by someone who would say something so utterly dumb, and so offensive;

2) The fact that he "has criteria" whereby he decides a person is worthy of the title; and,

3) He hasn't resigned and instead seems to want to further stick his thumb in the collective eye of an entire race.

He has to go.
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He's 82, it's not like he has much time left.
 
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lawgator1 said:
To me, the lack of an apology is really beside the point.

To me, its a question of:

1) Allowing your town to be represented in any way by someone who would say something so utterly dumb, and so offensive;

2) The fact that he "has criteria" whereby he decides a person is worthy of the title; and,

3) He hasn't resigned and instead seems to want to further stick his thumb in the collective eye of an entire race.


He has to go.
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This is your local community, right?
 
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BearCat204 said:
where were you when Nagin coined the "Chocolate City" phrase? Oh it was ok since he's black and all.
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Chocolate City was Washington DC's nickname back in the late 70s/early 80s.

Nagin ripped off that term like he ripped off the people of New Orleans.
 
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BearCat204 said:
where were you when Nagin coined the "Chocolate City" phrase? Oh it was ok since he's black and all.
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Correct. It is different.

Practically speaking its different. As LW says, you can debate whether it should be treated differently. Point is, it is perceived much differently.

Those who gloss over that distinction are, in my mind, just trying to justify the derogatory use of the word.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Correct. It is different.

Practically speaking its different. As LW says, you can debate whether it should be treated differently. Point is, it is perceived much differently.

Those who gloss over that distinction are, in my mind, just trying to justify the derogatory use of the word.
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Holy **** your bias is so thick that its impossible to hide. How is a black mayor of a major city claiming the name "chocolate city" for a city that also includes a large amount of white people?? It's the same damn thing, except Nagin was a Mayor and this guy is just some 82 yr old desk warmer.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Matter? I guess that's relative.

For me, it reinforces my belief that there are still people out there, many of them, who are so hateful and bigoted that they so cavalierly put aside basic manners, not to mention respect for the office (his own and Obama's) that he would say such a thing ... and then stick with it!
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I can only hope no one ever calls me out on some of the lewd things I've said in the past. I might be on CNN.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Holy **** your bias is so thick that its impossible to hide. How is a black mayor of a major city claiming the name "chocolate city" for a city that also includes a large amount of white people?? It's the same damn thing, except Nagin was a Mayor and this guy is just some 82 yr old desk warmer.
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It's really not the same thing at all, if we're talking about the actual comments made by both parties.
 
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I'd just like the simple question answered of why someone from Florida really cares so much about some small town elected official from New Hampshire.

Somehow, I doubt the world will stop turning and I seriously doubt he will have an impact on anyone's life.
 
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