McStrike

#51
#51
BearCat204 said:
Not really, this area hires medical assistants by the droves and it only requires a two-year education that is provided by a couple of the local community colleges at less than $150 a semester hour.....of which that is largely covered by scholarships provided by the State. After a two-year degree in this area in that field, a person would normally start out at around 26,000-30,000 a year, which isnt a bad salary to earn in this area of the country.
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I was referring to an actual MD but I see what you're saying. I know many that go to school as an assistant that start out at more than that.
 
#52
#52
utvolpj said:
because the govt doesn't understand how to work a system with that many moving parts and prefers the cookie-cutter approach. It also might hurt Johnny's feelings if he's told he might not be college material.



where exactly is vocational training allowed as a substitute for other HS classes? A school offering woodshop isn't the same as one taking a student after 10th grade and teaching them a trade
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Yeah I firmly believe in this approach. It works
 
#53
#53
utvolpj said:
because the govt doesn't understand how to work a system with that many moving parts and prefers the cookie-cutter approach. It also might hurt Johnny's feelings if he's told he might not be college material.



where exactly is vocational training allowed as a substitute for other HS classes? A school offering woodshop isn't the same as one taking a student after 10th grade and teaching them a trade
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My old school offered, & still does, vocational classes for students their Junior & senior years. Electrician, cosmetology, masonry, etc. Half the day is spent at the regular school & the other half down the road at the vocational school.
 
#54
#54
#VFL__ said:
Yeah I firmly believe in this approach. It works
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I do as well. I remember being told about it in my German classes in HS and not really grasping the impact. It looks like a great approach as we move forward in this country
 
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govols/cc said:
My old school offered, & still does, vocational classes for students their Junior & senior years. Electrician, cosmetology, masonry, etc. Half the day is spent at the regular school & the other half down the road at the vocational school.
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The public high schools in my town has offered those same classes you mentioned among other vocational classes for at least 40 years.
 
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offering classes and making it a real option are not the same. It would also require a partnership with local businesses to make it work.
 
#58
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govols/cc said:
But you're against humans working hard with an alternative of being poor??????
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I'm sorry but most of the mass wealth created in our society today isn't derived from hard work. That's my opinion and I'm sure others think differently.

Yes hard work does influence and raise your life choices in SOME cases. I'm not even sure what your responses means but I'm not against people working hard. I'm against people having to work hard their entire life just to die poor.
 
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utvolpj said:
offering classes and making it a real option are not the same. It would also require a partnership with local businesses to make it work.
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They do internships with some of the classes. It's not a path to an actual job but you do learn a bit of a skill or trade. I mean you have to make some decisions & put forth some effort yourself.
 
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utvolpj said:
offering classes and making it a real option are not the same. It would also require a partnership with local businesses to make it work.
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They are real options and do prepare the student as well as a vocational school does.
 
#61
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BearCat204 said:
So, if your employees collectively banded together to force a 80% raise in salary over what they were already being paid for their skills and education, you would happily fork over that additional payroll? Are you going to eat this, or are you going to pass it on to your "clients"? These individuals pay is not illegal nor is it sweatshop-like to where they are being so opressed into poverty. The wage that they are being paid is driven by the job market and demand for that skillset.
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They couldn't force it any more than these fast food workers can. Less, really,as there are only a few of them.
 
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lawgator1 said:
They couldn't force it any more than these fast food workers can. Less, really,as there are only a few of them.
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But you seem to be in agreement that they should be paid 80% over what the job market dictates for their skills and education. My question is, if you feel so strongly about this, why wouldn't you offer the same increase for your employees??
 
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lawgator1 said:
They couldn't force it any more than these fast food workers can. Less, really,as there are only a few of them.
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There are fewer of them because their job descriptions require a more advanced skill set. One could argue that, should they collectively walk on you, you'd be much harder-pressed to find replacements than Wendy's or KFC would be.
 
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#64
mtt2d said:
I wouldn't mind slightly higher prices as I could simply change my spending habits. I'd be more concerned about folks on fixed incomes having to pay higher prices on necessities because a group of people want to make $15.00 instead of $10.00 an hour.
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The prices will increase more than slightly. This would severely hamper small businesses and those wanting to start a business as well.
 
#65
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BearCat204 said:
But you seem to be in agreement that they should be paid 80% over what the job market dictates for their skills and education. My question is, if you feel so strongly about this, why wouldn't you offer the same increase for your employees??
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Do as I say not as I do.
 
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#67
When I saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be about John McCain's desire to launch a military strike into Nigeria to rescue those girls.
 
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Gramps said:
There is also some conservative members of the clergy that live by that motto. You know they preach against adultery on Sunday then nail sister Sarah on Monday.
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I didn't want to be accused of bashing Christians
 
#72
#72
BearCat204 said:
I didn't want to be accused of bashing Christians
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I was not bashing Christians. I was bashing those in the clergy that live the life they preach that is wrong to live.. I call them hypocrites. .Members of the clergy are held to higher standard than the lay members. The books of Titus and Timothy are very specific about their requirements. There are many deceivers in this world.
 
#73
#73
People like to talk about mcds the corporation but fail to acknowledge most stores are owned by franchise owners. As are most fast food chains.
 
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#74
#74
If they strike fire them someone would be glad to have that pay!!

I read that they are wanting $10.10 an hour but the goal would be $15.00. It looks like they aren't smart enough to know that business owners can't pay that and a lot of them would lose there job.

Not to mention the the possibility of eventually having to pay $8.00 for a Big Mac! Micky D's value menu going to $3 bucks or more!
 
#75
#75
CagleMtnVol said:
If they strike fire them someone would be glad to have that pay!!

I read that they are wanting $10.10 an hour but the goal would be $15.00. It looks like they aren't smart enough to know that business owners can't pay that and a lot of them would lose there job.

Not to mention the the possibility of eventually having to pay $8.00 for a Big Mac! Micky D's value menu going to $3 bucks or more!
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Ordering kiosks with a couple of higher paid awesome customer service experts would be viable at the $15 per hour range. Fast food workers are the Ludites of the future.
 
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