Not Going to Have "Thugs"? Wha?

[Burger]

I agree that just because certain dumbasses use a word racially should not taint the word for intelligent people to use properly.

As for the first paragraph, 300 years of bondage followed by 100 years of oppression might make you hypersensitive to.

Most AA's nowadays were never bonded or enslaved. I think that mentality is self-serving more than correct.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I think it's a huge stretch to say CDT meant the "N" word when he use the word "Thug" especially seeing the makeup of his teams of the past. We're not talking about a Wisconsin level of diversity here.

 

[OrangeDonkey]

He said no thugs OR renegades.

Ainge did half a segment on this very statement yesterday.

Only Volnation would debate whether or not a coach should say that he doesn't want thugs or renegades on his team.

 

[GAVol]

Most AA's were never bonded or enslaved. I think that mentality is self-serving more than correct.

You can hardly blame people though for being suspicious when they've grown up being taught to be suspicious - sometimes of good reason.

I'm torn on the issue. I don't think people should get to assign a word "code word" status just because. But at the same time, if we're sitting in a bar and I say something off color and you tell me that it bugs you, I'd rather just say ok and dig a little deeper into my vocabulary than waste time having a debate about it.

 

[k-town_king]

AA's are well known for being bull hurt over anything because of Jesse Jackson and guys like him. If they knew how ignorant they were, they'd breakdown.

A thug is any color, any race. Justin Bieber is a thug!

You are the ignorant one. You can't even put a coherent thought together. I know you are making sweeping dumb a** generalizations. Maybe Black people are offended because there is something to be offended about.Dumb racists like you want to pretend there is no racism or claim some one is "playing the race card" when something legitimate is brought up. There is no such thing as race baiting , reverse racism, or playing the race card. Those are terms made by racists to excuse their thinking and behavior.

As to the "thug" thing. There are plenty of White people who use "thug" or "ghetto" as stand ins for the n word. That's not what Tyndall meant, but he should be more media savvy than to say that.

 

[k-town_king]

I will bite.

Is thug a derogatory term? Yes

Is thug a derogatory term used to describe some problem black individuals? Yes

Is thug a derogatory term used to describe some problem white individuals? Yes

Hispanics? Yes

The list goes on and on. He might could have used a more PC term but in no way does that make him a racist. Racism/racist is the most over used whiny excuse/complaint in America right now. Its 2014, some people are racist but most aren't. I would venture to guess that more white people are falsely accused of being racist than any black person is falsely accused of being a thug. What I have learned in life is that the people that cry racism the most and the fastest are usually the most racist of all.

If you really believe this you are one of the dumbest people on the planet.

 

[lonelawyer]

Most AA's nowadays were never bonded or enslaved. I think that mentality is self-serving more than correct.

Perhaps. Maybe even probably. But many African Americans feel that way and pretending it isn't a potential problem for coaches and athletic departments won't make the issue disappear.

 

[Burger]

Perhaps. Maybe even probably. But many African Americans feel that way and pretending it isn't a potential problem for coaches and athletic departments won't make the issue disappear.

Its not a problem our athletic department can solve. It requires major cultural change across our society. As humans, were taught to be biased.

 

[Fightmaker]

I am so sick of this.

 

[Burger]

You are the ignorant one. You can't even put a coherent thought together. I know you are making sweeping dumb a** generalizations. Maybe Black people are offended because there is something to be offended about.Dumb racists like you want to pretend there is no racism or claim some one is "playing the race card" when something legitimate is brought up. There is no such thing as race baiting , reverse racism, or playing the race card. Those are terms made by racists to excuse their thinking and behavior.

As to the "thug" thing. There are plenty of White people who use "thug" or "ghetto" as stand ins for the n word. That's not what Tyndall meant, but he should be more media savvy than to say that.

Yes there is such thing as race baiting. Jesse Jackson is famous for it. The Trayvon Martin trial was a bunch of race baiting. Jesse himself said blacks were incapable of being racist.
Personally, I don't think race exists at all. It's a made up term by men to exclude members of other groups.
When its legitimate racism, I'd be glad to admit it. This is not legit as there are many other skin colors that are thugs.

 

[GAVol]

Its not a problem our athletic department can solve. It requires major cultural change across our society. As humans, were taught to be biased.

The AD can't fix the division, but a head coach in a sport dominated by African Americans should probably choose his words a little more carefully.

 

[orangeluvr]

CDT only wants talented players with goals of graduating, thugs have no goals . Good coaches and schools care about a student-athlete 's future , there is a life after sports.
The NCAA has raised the GPA requirement for continuing eligibility , now athletes must focus on academics if they want to play. Thugs aren't interested in an education , it's a shame so many are willing to throw a great opportunity away. :dunno:

 

[ERAY]

Serious question here.

The Richard Sherman incident brought this term to the forefront of the sporting world's consciousness. In fact, Sherman wrote an article about it in the MMQB


Richard Sherman Explains What People Mean When They Call Him A "Thug"

Sherman--and most of the African American community and most of pundents--came to the conclusion that "thug" is the new "n-word."

Now: Is Tyndall a purposeful racist? I don't think so. I don't think most of the people that use "Thug" consider themselves racist. In fact, I know they don't.

Yet, it is mostly considered a racist term by African Americans. So, I'm not sure what to make of that, but it's something I noticed and cringed at when I heard him say it.

Thoughts?

Go Vals!

THUG:
noun
1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
2. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.

Origin:
1800–10; < Hindi thag literally, rogue, cheat

Im not buying what Sherman said! :loco: But i will buy what coach DT said because we DO NOT need any thugs(see above definition) at THE University of Tennessee!!:salute:

 

[Preds&Vols]

Somebody please take this guy's thread starting privileges away.

Seriously please...

 

[gnm53108]

The United States of the offended.

 

[barney]

I think he probably could have expressed his message with a bit more care. That said, lets not forget that Donnie Tyndall is a basketball coach from Michigan. He probably doesn't view race the same way someone from the south would and basketball coaches aren't exactly known for their political correctness. What he said in the press conference is much less important then what he says in the homes of the players he is recruiting. I certainly hope he doesn't use this word in that context.

 

[GAVol]

THUG:
noun
1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
2. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.

Origin:
1800–10; < Hindi thag literally, rogue, cheat

Im not buying what Sherman said! :loco: But i will buy what coach DT said because we DO NOT need any thugs(see above definition) at THE University of Tennessee!!:salute:

That's kind of like saying the N word is just a southern mispronunciation of negro. It's correct by definition, but everybody knows how it gets used. I don't like how it leads to false accusations and useless debates, but there's an element of truth there no matter how much you want to write it off as PC stuff.

 

[jspvol76]

Lol at the OP claiming the word thug is just for black people, how selfish!

These are some thugs as well, imho.

 

[utvolpj]

I think he probably could have expressed his message with a bit more care. That said, lets not forget that Donnie Tyndall is a basketball coach from Michigan. He probably doesn't view race the same way someone from the south would and basketball coaches aren't exactly known for their political correctness. What he said in the press conference is much less important then what he says in the homes of the players he is recruiting. I certainly hope he doesn't use this word in that context.

his last stop was in Mississippi. He probably has a clue on race and the south

 

[salutethehill]

Thugs 100 years from now...

 

[Vol8188]

You are the ignorant one. You can't even put a coherent thought together. I know you are making sweeping dumb a** generalizations. Maybe Black people are offended because there is something to be offended about.Dumb racists like you want to pretend there is no racism or claim some one is "playing the race card" when something legitimate is brought up. There is no such thing as race baiting , reverse racism, or playing the race card. Those are terms made by racists to excuse their thinking and behavior.

As to the "thug" thing. There are plenty of White people who use "thug" or "ghetto" as stand ins for the n word. That's not what Tyndall meant, but he should be more media savvy than to say that.

If you want to talk about "racist" words, reverse racism is probably the most racist term known to man.

It's a bs term used to excuse the racism of African Americans.

Further more, I've heard 100x more blacks refer to other blacks as being "ghetto" than I have any white person. So if there's a great racial word war going on in our nation, it must be a black on black civil war.

 

[Burger]

That's kind of like saying the N word is just a southern mispronunciation of negro. It's correct by definition, but everybody knows how it gets used. I don't like how it leads to false accusations and useless debates, but there's an element of truth there no matter how much you want to write it off as PC stuff.

PC stuff is ruining our country. It needs to go. It's causing people who shoot it straight to get misinterpreted because of someone's bias.

 

[SamRebel35]

What ever happened to the "sticks and stones" approach to life? Seems like we've all become a bunch of crying soft poocees.

 

[orangeluvr]

Yes there is such thing as race baiting. Jesse Jackson is famous for it. The Trayvon Martin trial was a bunch of race baiting. Jesse himself said blacks were incapable of being racist.
Personally, I don't think race exists at all. It's a made up term by men to exclude members of other groups.
When its legitimate racism, I'd be glad to admit it. This is not legit as there are many other skin colors that are thugs.

"Red and yellow , black and white, we are precious in His sight". Sang that song as a child in Sunday school.

 

[allvol9]

My opinion will not be popular on this subject. Thug is not the new n word to me. Thugs come in all colors shapes and sizes.

Ditto. I don't know anyone that uses that word in regards to a race. It applies to all races and is used for what a person does, acts, etc. Just crazy to make that word racial when it is indeed not.