Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XI

[Aesius]

The fact we may move a DT to OT may indicate worse news about what our coaches think of our current talent there.

Going to be a rebuilding year for sure. I'm holding off my predictions until after spring practice, but I'm leaning towards a 5-6 win year. Too many holes on the lines. Should be a more entertaining 5-6 win year than last one though.

Another 5 win season will be devastating for fan support and recruiting. Butch has to will this team to win 6.

 

[Vols4us]

I must be misunderstanding what I have read, which is very possible. I take it that Carr MAY get moved to O-line. Is that what Hubbs said - MAY? They plan to make a decision after a few more practices - right? Is that code speak that he WILL get moved? Or is that Butch trying to motivate Carr into giving 100% attention to his current role?

 

[SaguaroVols]

The fact we may move a DT to OT may indicate worse news about what our coaches think of our current talent there.

Going to be a rebuilding year for sure. I'm holding off my predictions until after spring practice, but I'm leaning towards a 5-6 win year. Too many holes on the lines. Should be a more entertaining 5-6 win year than last one though.

Where on the OL is he projected to play? Certainly not center. I'm assuming most likely OG?

Most likely due to depth issues. Outside of the starting OL and Blair, we are short. A serious injury on the OL and we are in trouble.

We have a lot of Options on the DL and have talent on DE with a lot of versatile players. Add in a talented incoming class and we should be ok.

 

[PassedOutAwake]

Where on the OL is he projected to play? Certainly not center. I'm assuming most likely OG?

Most likely due to depth issues. Outside of the starting OL and Blair, we are short. A serious injury on the OL and we are in trouble.

We have a lot of Options on the DL and have talent on DE with a lot of versatile players. Add in a talented incoming class and we should be ok.

Jones said Tackle

 

[Dust10]

I must be misunderstanding what I have read, which is very possible. I take it that Carr MAY get moved to O-line. Is that what Hubbs said - MAY? They plan to make a decision after a few more practices - right? Is that code speak that he WILL get moved? Or is that Butch trying to motivate Carr into giving 100% attention to his current role?

Yes, yes, perhaps, definitely.

 

[Vol464]

That's funny coming from you lol

No doubt

 

[SaguaroVols]

Jones said Tackle

Thanks for the clarification.

If it's indeed OT, coaches must have some concerns about Blair. IMO

 

[LIvol]

Got her in action tonight

This custom job or you have a link, POA?

 

[tmac5469]

One thing to consider is the fact that last spring hubbs said Danny o brien might move to the offensive line. Dob gave us good minutes. But butch saying it and hubbs saying it may mean two different things. So who knows.

 

[PassedOutAwake]

This custom job or you have a link, POA?

Custom paint job

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I just took it as Carr is a huge strong guy, just not quite as explosive as the staff would like. Explosive enough to block, but maybe he just couldn't quite get the penetration they want from the DL.

 

[VolGee4]

Where on the OL is he projected to play? Certainly not center. I'm assuming most likely OG?

Most likely due to depth issues. Outside of the starting OL and Blair, we are short. A serious injury on the OL and we are in trouble.

We have a lot of Options on the DL and have talent on DE with a lot of versatile players. Add in a talented incoming class and we should be ok.

Tackle. Carr has long arms and is actually well built to be a tackle. Surprised because of the DLine depth, but Carr has physical traits to be a tackle.

 

[vol2002]

Another 5 win season will be devastating for fan support and recruiting. Butch has to will this team to win 6.

In one sense I agree. In another I think fans just need to buckle up and recognize where we are as a program. Long term the future is very bright if people stick with Butch IMO.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

In one sense I agree. In another I think fans just need to buckle up and recognize where we are as a program. Long term the future is very bright if people stick with Butch IMO.

This is what I think, and then I wander over to the basketball forum and realize people are super angry about a team that made a sweet 16 and I remember our fanbase is super bipolar.

I wish everyone could realize that Butch is building a great program through elite recruiting and it's only a matter of time til we can win games off talent alone ha

 

[SaguaroVols]

In one sense I agree. In another I think fans just need to buckle up and recognize where we are as a program. Long term the future is very bright if people stick with Butch IMO.

Last years 5-7 season was the most optimistic losing season I can recall.

If we end up with another losing season, all hell gon break loose.

6 wins plus a bowl win is a MUST, especially for recruiting and perception that we are on the right track.

 

[NMVol]

I say let the season unfold and enjoy the ups and downs. Its student teacher day this Saturday and then the O and W the next. Let it come to you.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

I'll believe Carr to OT when I see it. Our Oline is kicking the sh*t out of our DLine in scrimmages right now and we don't have anyone coming in this summer that will likely be anywhere near ready to take snaps at DT. Jordan Williams to the inside is getting pretty desperate as it is, imo. I think the "clock is ticking" could be (hopefully is) an attempt to light a fire of urgency under Carr. We need him at DT. We have Danny and Owen and no one else. We don't know how long it will take Sauls to get back, if ever. We really just don't have any other bodies for the inside of the DLine. None. Absolutely None! But hey that just how I see it.

 

[JRVFL]

Another 5 win season will be devastating for fan support and recruiting. Butch has to will this team to win 6.

Yep. And the small but loud and overzealous section of our fan base will flip their you know whats and be calling for his head.

And if we win 6, we'll probably win 7 with a presumably weak bowl game opponent.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

SIAP but there are a lot of good vines of Preston Williams, Edoga, Gibson and a couple of other Vol targets on Derek Tyson's vine account. Including good matchups of Williams vs Toliver.

One of Gibson during drills and the ball explodes out of his hand on the throw.

https://vine.co/u/923303676183977984

 

[butchna]

How could you possibly know better than the coaching staff who works with the players everyday? Serious question.

I have to know better than them to disagree with a move? Serious Ron?

 

[jave36]

Last years 5-7 season was the most optimistic losing season I can recall.

If we end up with another losing season, all hell gon break loose.

6 wins plus a bowl win is a MUST, especially for recruiting and perception that we are on the right track.

Ya, we will not have a great recruiting class with another 5 win season. This team will be about as good as last year I think, better in some places worse in others, but our schedule is a little, tiny bit easier. 6 is possible, but I'd have to dig deep into my homer side to predict it.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I don't think we will have a top 5 class again, but butch can still sell the future to these kids. His only full recruiting class will only be freshman, that's an easy sell for any salesman worth his pay. Regardless of the season, I think we still pull a top 10 class.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Johnny Manziel to file for new trademark - ESPN

Johnny loves him some Johnny.

 

[delfonic]

Johnny Manziel to file for new trademark - ESPN

Johnny loves him some Johnny.

It's actually not entirely uncommon per this article on the Sausser and Spurr LAWBLAWG.

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[vol2002]

I don't think we will have a top 5 class again, but butch can still sell the future to these kids. His only full recruiting class will only be freshman, that's an easy sell for any salesman worth his pay. Regardless of the season, I think we still pull a top 10 class.

I'm with you. I think he has one more year to sell the future and he can parlay it into a nice class, provided our fan base doesn't openly abandon him and start signing petitions, etc. The success of next years class will hinge in part on how our fanbase reacts to another tough season, I think.