Even More Obamacare Follies

#1,902
#1,902
Nice strawman. I don't want ALL goods and services to be free for everyone. I want that for healthcare. I also want to see a system where working any job will ensure you with a decent standard of living. If that requires price controls, then price controls I support. No one should be priced out of ANYTHING. And if the price system fails horribly in a certain area, I would like to see the state take over that sector and distribute goods more fairly. For example, televisions right now are brutally expensive. People who are below middle class have no access to one. If the state came in and made sure that the price of tvs was not too high for people who couldn't afford them, then I would support that.
 
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#1,905
Judge Holden said:
Nice strawman. I don't want ALL goods and services to be free for everyone. I want that for healthcare. I also want to see a system where working any job will ensure you with a decent standard of living. If that requires price controls, then price controls I support. No one should be priced out of ANYTHING. And if the price system fails horribly in a certain area, I would like to see the state take over that sector and distribute goods more fairly. For example, televisions right now are brutally expensive. People who are below middle class have no access to one. If the state came in and made sure that the price of tvs was not too high for people who couldn't afford them, then I would support that.
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Having a tv is not a right nor is healthcare. If you want something work for it. If you still can't afford it get a better job.
 
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#1,906
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Judge Holden said:
Nice strawman. I don't want ALL goods and services to be free for everyone. I want that for healthcare. I also want to see a system where working any job will ensure you with a decent standard of living. If that requires price controls, then price controls I support. No one should be priced out of ANYTHING. And if the price system fails horribly in a certain area, I would like to see the state take over that sector and distribute goods more fairly. For example, televisions right now are brutally expensive. People who are below middle class have no access to one. If the state came in and made sure that the price of tvs was not too high for people who couldn't afford them, then I would support that.
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You just lost, no doubt your just trolling now.

Either that or you're the reincarnation of Carl Marx?
 
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#1,908
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govols/cc said:
Having a tv is not a right nor is healthcare. If you want something work for it. If you still can't afford it get a better job.
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LOL at you thinking "work" will bring you goods and services in a capitalist economy. News flash bozo, the working poor would be fricked if not for food stamps, section 8, and medicaid. In economics, there is a thing called "equilibrium price", where the demand and supply for an item are equal. What about those people who can only afford stuff at below the equilibrium price? They are out of luck. You would NEVER see such restrictions on goods in other economic systems.
 
#1,909
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govols/cc said:
It's government ran so it must be pretty good. I hear they have work camps kinda like the peace corps.
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You know, I bet these "Horror stories" and "Escapees" we hear about are there just to discourage the world from going there and taking advantage of their awesome healthcare system.

Friggin' North Koreans.
 
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#1,910
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tumscalcium said:
You know, I bet these "Horror stories" and "Escapees" we hear about are there just to discourage the world from going there and taking advantage of their awesome healthcare system.

Friggin' North Koreans.
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I hope you are being as sarcastic as I was.
 
#1,912
#1,912
Judge Holden said:
LOL at you thinking "work" will bring you goods and services in a capitalist economy. News flash bozo, the working poor would be fricked if not for food stamps, section 8, and medicaid. In economics, there is a thing called "equilibrium price", where the demand and supply for an item are equal. What about those people who can only afford stuff at below the equilibrium price? They are out of luck. You would NEVER see such restrictions on goods in other economic systems.
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Lol. So you're proposing subsidies on everything. Lol. If your dream came to fruition then what would be the point in anybody working? Do you thing people who made choices to better themselves, get an education, learn a trade, & work for what they have are gonna be cool with this? With all the bs the libs have made available there's no reason any of these people should be living or working in poverty unless it's their choice & too damn lazy to do anything about it.
 
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govols/cc said:
Lol. So you're proposing subsidies on everything. Lol. If your dream came to fruition then what would be the point in anybody working? Do you thing people who made choices to better themselves, get an education, learn a trade, & work for what they have are gonna be cool with this? With all the bs the libs have made available there's no reason any of these people should be living or working in poverty unless it's their choice & too damn lazy to do anything about it.
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This guy makes LG sound rational...
 
#1,914
#1,914
govols/cc said:
Lol. So you're proposing subsidies on everything. Lol. If your dream came to fruition then what would be the point in anybody working? Do you thing people who made choices to better themselves, get an education, learn a trade, & work for what they have are gonna be cool with this? With all the bs the libs have made available there's no reason any of these people should be living or working in poverty unless it's their choice & too damn lazy to do anything about it.
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Only those who work are eligible for the free stuff
 
#1,915
#1,915
Judge Holden said:
Nice strawman. I don't want ALL goods and services to be free for everyone. I want that for healthcare. I also want to see a system where working any job will ensure you with a decent standard of living. If that requires price controls, then price controls I support. No one should be priced out of ANYTHING. And if the price system fails horribly in a certain area, I would like to see the state take over that sector and distribute goods more fairly. For example, televisions right now are brutally expensive. People who are below middle class have no access to one. If the state came in and made sure that the price of tvs was not too high for people who couldn't afford them, then I would support that.
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You certainly bring some funny stats. 97% of homes have a TV. TVs can be purchased for under $200

Of course when you are paying $50K a year for insurance it may be tough to scrounge up $169.00 for an HDTV.
 
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volinbham said:
You certainly bring some funny stats. 97% of homes have a TV. TVs can be purchased for under $200

Of course when you are paying $50K a year for insurance it may be tough to scrounge up $169.00 for an HDTV.
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Luckily I have good credit and get my 50k loan at 4.56953257 interest. I'll have last year insurance premium paid off in 6 years.
 
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#1,917
#1,917
volinbham said:
You certainly bring some funny stats. 97% of homes have a TV. TVs can be purchased for under $200

Of course when you are paying $50K a year for insurance it may be tough to scrounge up $169.00 for an HDTV.
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How can a person working at McDonalds or Burger King afford this?
 
#1,923
#1,923
TVs are really a poor example. They've actually gotten cheaper over the decades when you look at inflation. The 200 - 300 price point for TVs has been around at least since the 80s.
 
#1,924
#1,924
ok, how about housing as an example. Wide swaths of colored folks need section 8 because they cannot afford the equilibrium price for apartments and homes.
 
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