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Bruce Wayne said:
I'd rather have Stokes at the line than McRae.. McRae had already missed 3 or more free throws. and I still say Stokes was trying to draw the double then hit J-Mac.
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I'd rather had Richardson than McRae, but Stokes was fine with me. It was a great comeback. Wish we could have won it.
 
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WTNVol2 said:
Ok thanks. I am torn between having him or just an elite athlete like Gibson that can make plays with his legs and just throw it up to our stud receivers. I guess can't lose either way.
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Correction. He was supposed to arrive today
 
#5,507
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OldVol49vfl said:
I just noticed on this video that McRae had moved to the right of Stokes and when Stokes started his drive and the other defender doubled up on him that it looked like Stokes was going to pass out to McRae who was not covered but the ball got knocked loose (before the so-called "charge" call). Stokes was looking in the direction of McRae. Too bad he didn't get the ball to McRae.
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You're absolutely correct. He was trying to pass the ball to McRae. Look at the baseline slo-mo video. If the defender had been half a second later with the hands, Stokes would have passed the ball to McRae. The ending could have been totally different.
 
#5,508
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Yet another close game decided by free throws. Louisville wins easily if they don't miss a dozen free throws. Ruined my bracket, how are these elite players unable to make free throws?
 
#5,510
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vol2002 said:
I agree that it might have technically been the right call. But wasn't the right time to call it. I'm all for letting the players play in that spot. Nobody wants to watch the refs call something like that with 6 seconds to go.

Still a great game by the team. I'm proud of their effort.
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Yes. You don't call that with the game on the line. Only if he is flying down the lane out of control, not on a simple drop step. Stokes did not even hit him squarely with his shoulder, more of the back.

Bruce Wayne said:
"phantom contact" he did touch him but the guy anticipated the move and was bracing to fall back before any actual contact... IMO of course.
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Spot on. In slow motion, his legs are folding like a card table before contact. Balls ascended like a scared turtle and he took a dishonorable way to victory, IMO. Yes, I know that was harsh. Yes, I would probably feel different if a TN player did it, so I'm probably a hypocrite.

OldVol49vfl said:
I just noticed on this video that McRae had moved to the right of Stokes and when Stokes started his drive and the other defender doubled up on him that it looked like Stokes was going to pass out to McRae who was not covered but the ball got knocked loose (before the so-called "charge" call). Stokes was looking in the direction of McRae. Too bad he didn't get the ball to McRae.
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Yep, as the ball is knocked free, Stokes motion without the ball was to McRae, who would have taken the jumper or driven the lane. That was probably how Cuonzo drew it up, which is why Stokes was anticipating it.

Mike4Vols said:
You're absolutely correct. He was trying to pass the ball to McRae. Look at the baseline slo-mo video. If the defender had been half a second later with the hands, Stokes would have passed the ball to McRae. The ending could have been totally different.
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That, it would have been.

Tennessee Volunteers vs. Michigan Wolverines - NCAA Tournament Game - Recap - March 28, 2014 - ESPN

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Jordan Morgan, who scored 15 points, heeded his coach's advice and stood his ground until Stokes lowered his shoulder. The senior forward immediately crashed to the floor -- perhaps embellishing the contact -- but drawing the call that saved the game for Michigan and infuriated Tennessee's "Rocky Top" contingent.

"With the magnitude of this game, I don't think you could call a charge at that point," McRae said dejectedly after scoring 24 points.

"I don't think I fouled him," said Stokes, who had 11 points and six rebounds after two straight double-doubles. "But it was a smart play for him to try to take the charge. He pretty much anticipated it."
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Tifwiw, but Danny Parker said Gavin Bryant has stepped up his grades and is expected to fully qualify, and said the only concern is that Dewayne Hendrix may need to take summer classes to fully qualify.
 
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@Volquest_Paul: Tennessee commitments @ButcherAndrew1 and @djackson8901 say they are ready to do work at the #RivalsCamp
 

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nicksjuzunk said:
Yes. You don't call that with the game on the line. Only if he is flying down the lane out of control, not on a simple drop step. Stokes did not even hit him squarely with his shoulder, more of the back.



Spot on. In slow motion, his legs are folding like a card table before contact. Balls ascended like a scared turtle and he took a dishonorable way to victory, IMO. Yes, I know that was harsh. Yes, I would probably feel different if a TN player did it, so I'm probably a hypocrite.



Yep, as the ball is knocked free, Stokes motion without the ball was to McRae, who would have taken the jumper or driven the lane. That was probably how Cuonzo drew it up, which is why Stokes was anticipating it.



That, it would have been.

Tennessee Volunteers vs. Michigan Wolverines - NCAA Tournament Game - Recap - March 28, 2014 - ESPN

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Riddle me this Batman? I have seen them review fouls much more obvious than that one so why didn't they review that one with the game on the line? Well I'll tell you. Does the NCAA want Mich or UT in the Elite Eight? Not a conspiracy theorist but there are preconceived notions about who should win games and sometimes it seems the refs steer the games in that direction. I'm proud of the BasketVols and I hope Zo comes back for vindication next year. GBFO!
 
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Can he walk on? I thought if you were recruited you couldn't walk on. I'm probably retarded.
 
#5,525
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VolLee said:
Don't be so hard on yourself. Remember, you're good enough, you're smart enough, and doggone it, people like you.
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