Official Global Warming thread (merged)

#2,701
#2,701
508mikey said:
global warming to return next week -- mid teens/snow at the end March in Illinois, really?
Click to expand...
orangeslice13 said:
Its climate change now. Cold is the new hot.
Click to expand...
W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Spring has sprung so the calender says? But winter says :finger3: to the USA.
Click to expand...
Snow in Illinois in March?!?!

cold.png


Your refusal to admit the difference between the terms global warming and climate change is pathetic and droll.
 
#2,707
#2,707
whenever gs would start his nonsense, I would start posting pics of cats in hats
 

Attachments

  • cat in a hat.png
    cat in a hat.png
    311.1 KB · Views: 0
#2,709
#2,709
BartW said:
Yes it is. I've explained the difference several times yet y'all continue to push the myth that scientists recently invented the term 'climate change' to cover their asses. It's dishonest and makes you look dumb(er)
Click to expand...

Star Trek photos posted are science fiction ------- so is global warming
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#2,712
#2,712
BartW said:
Snow in Illinois in March?!?!

cold.png


Your refusal to admit the difference between the terms global warming and climate change is pathetic and droll.
Click to expand...

That's what the Warmers are doing, and it's a very lousy attempt to confuse the public. Tell me, what are we experiencing? Climate change? Man-made global warming, or just global warming?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#2,713
#2,713
Gannon Goodson said:
That's what the Warmers are doing, and it's a very lousy attempt to confuse the public. Tell me, what are we experiencing? Climate change? Man-made global warming, or just global warming?
Click to expand...

Sigh...

Just from the last few pages:

BartW said:
I know it isn’t worth trying to explain to you people, but this is the difference between “global warming” and “climate change”. Overall, Earth is warming. But it doesn’t warm uniformly. Some places cool, while most places warm. Just because the jet stream moved further south over the eastern US this winter doesn’t mean the planet as a whole was cold.

In a Rutgers University paper published last year, researchers Jennifer Francis and Stephen Vavrus wrote that the melting of Arctic ice was weakening the jet stream, the band of fast-moving wind that separates colder northern air from warmer air further south. As it weakens, it dips southward for longer periods than in the past, bringing icy-cold air with it for increasingly long stays. The weaker winds “may lead to an increased probability of extreme weather events that result from prolonged conditions, such as drought, flooding, cold spells and heat waves,” says the article, published in Geophysical Research Letters.

That means that while the climate (or average global temperature) of the Earth heats up, the weather in every region won’t necessarily follow suit. Places prone to warm weather will see extended droughts, while much of Canada may experience more extended cold snaps. In other words, a warmer Arctic may be affecting the length of time the polar vortex dips down south, but not necessarily the temperatures themselves. Further, as the Arctic continues to heat up, so may the temperature of the “cold snaps,” reflecting the warming northern air.
Click to expand...
BartW said:
False. I've addressed this myth several times. 'Climate Change' and 'Global Warming' have two different though related meanings. I've explained it as recently as post #2565 (shown in SV's quote below). Scientists have been using the term climate change longer than they have global warming. Dumb myth is dumb. Here's a google scholar search history:

cc_vs_gw.GIF


Global Warming vs. Climate Change

Maybe if people didn't post the same previously debunked 'skeptic' hogwash over and over I wouldn't have to quote myself.
Click to expand...
BartW said:
I literally just showed you why you’re wrong about the terminology myth, and without addressing my post, you come right back and post the exact same myth. You people are silly.
Click to expand...

In one ear and out the other. Your perpetuation of this moronic myth is a typical denialist maneuver to to confuse the public.
 
#2,714
#2,714
BartW said:
Sigh...

Just from the last few pages:





In one ear and out the other. Your perpetuation of this moronic myth is a typical denialist maneuver to to confuse the public.
Click to expand...


Yeah.... Well my shoes are faster than your shoes.

And my dad can beat up your dad, so there.










:)
 
#2,715
#2,715
The AAAS, the world’s largest and most prestigious scientific society (and publisher of Science), just released a report confirming that the world is at growing risk of “abrupt, unpredictable and potentially irreversible changes” due to climate change. It’s simply called What We Know.

From the intro:

The overwhelming evidence of human-caused climate change documents both current impacts with significant costs and extraordinary future risks to society and natural systems. The scientific community has convened conferences, published reports, spoken out at forums and proclaimed, through statements by virtually every national scientific academy and relevant major scientific organization — including the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) — that climate change puts the well-being of people of all nations at risk.

Surveys show that many Americans think climate change is still a topic of significant scientific disagreement. Thus, it is important and increasingly urgent for the public to know there is now a high degree of agreement among climate scientists that human-caused climate change is real. Moreover, while the public is becoming aware that climate change is increasing the likelihood of certain local disasters, many people do not yet understand that there is a small, but real chance of abrupt, unpredictable and potentially irreversible changes with highly damaging impacts on people in the United States and around the world.

It is not the purpose of this paper to explain why this disconnect between scientific knowledge and public perception has occurred. Nor are we seeking to provide yet another extensive review of the scientific evidence for climate change. Instead, we present key messages for every American about climate change:

1. Climate scientists agree: climate change is happening here and now. Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening. This agreement is documented not just by a single study, but by a converging stream of evidence over the past two decades from surveys of scientists, content analyses of peer-reviewed studies, and public statements issued by virtually every membership organization of experts in this field. Average global temperature has increased by about 1.4˚ F over the last 100 years. Sea level is rising, and some types of extreme events – such as heat waves and heavy precipitation events – are happening more frequently. Recent scientific findings indicate that climate change is likely responsible for the increase in the intensity of many of these events in recent years.

2. We are at risk of pushing our climate system toward abrupt, unpredictable, and potentially irreversible changes with highly damaging impacts. Earth’s climate is on a path to warm beyond the range of what has been experienced over the past millions of years. The range of uncertainty for the warming along the current emissions path is wide enough to encompass massively disruptive consequences to societies and ecosystems: as global temperatures rise, there is a real risk, however small, that one or more critical parts of the Earth’s climate system will experience abrupt, unpredictable and potentially irreversible changes. Disturbingly, scientists do not know how much warming is required to trigger such changes to the climate system.

3. The sooner we act, the lower the risk and cost. And there is much we can do. Waiting to take action will inevitably increase costs, escalate risk, and foreclose options to address the risk. The CO2 we produce accumulates in Earth’s atmosphere for decades, centuries, and longer. It is not like pollution from smog or wastes in our lakes and rivers, where levels respond quickly to the effects of targeted policies. The effects of CO2 emissions cannot be reversed from one generation to the next until there is a large- scale, cost-effective way to scrub carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Moreover, as emissions continue and warming increases, the risk increases.

By making informed choices now, we can reduce risks for future generations and ourselves, and help communities adapt to climate change. People have responded successfully to other major environmental challenges such as acid rain and the ozone hole with benefits greater than costs, and scientists working with economists believe there are ways to manage the risks of climate change while balancing current and future economic prosperity.
Click to expand...
 
#2,717
#2,717
ok, Bart, how do we reduce carbon emissions?

and don't say "through a cap and trade system"

then tell us how to get emerging economies like China and India to latch on because it can't just be the US and Germany
 
#2,718
#2,718
MG1968 said:
ok, Bart, how do we reduce carbon emissions?

and don't say "through a cap and trade system"

then tell us how to get emerging economies like China and India to latch on because it can't just be the US and Germany
Click to expand...

I prefer the carbon tax. If you weren't around for the last cycle of policy discussions I suggest browsing through pages ~ 42-48 before slamming it. I'm open to other ideas but IMO a revenue-neutral carbon tax is the most practical solution.

1912385_10152216061533914_1753644434_n.jpg
 
#2,719
#2,719
Yeah..maybe a million scientists believe in your theory so it must be true.

Billions of people believe in Christ...many enough to die for it. No way that's true though right?

You keep your belief system and ill keep mine. Both require that one believes in things they cannot see... science and Christianity are certainly not mutually exclusive. That's a farce like your shrub hugging scheme.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#2,720
#2,720
BartW said:
I prefer the carbon tax. If you weren't around for the last cycle of policy discussions I suggest browsing through pages ~ 42-48 before slamming it. I'm open to other ideas but IMO a revenue-neutral carbon tax is the most practical solution.

1912385_10152216061533914_1753644434_n.jpg
Click to expand...

So again you fail to address the China's and India's of the world and how we would get them to enforce the same rules you want enforced on us.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#2,721
#2,721
hog88 said:
So again you fail to address the China's and India's of the world and how we would get them to enforce the same rules you want enforced on us.
Click to expand...

Do China's top scientist believe in global warming?

( honest question)
 
#2,723
#2,723
hog88 said:
Heck if I know. My problem with the Barts of the world is that the only people they want to hurt economically is us.
Click to expand...

That was my point.

I'm like mcdad... How much money should I send, to keep from burning up earth?
 
#2,724
#2,724
Obsessed said:
That was my point.

I'm like mcdad... How much money should I send, to keep from burning up earth?
Click to expand...

The whole man made global warming cult is just another wealth redistribution scheme. Biggest difference is the wealth is being redistributed up.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement





Back
Top