BartW
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Lol. Obvious biased sources like NASA, NCDC, NSIDC, and various peer-reviewed scientific literature? I stopped posting graphs because people don't want to discuss real data. Information scares them.So now Bart has refrained from using the graphs from obvious biased sources to posting Tyson quotes.
Y'all are accusing thousands of scientists over several decades of conspiring to hide the truth and push some mysterious (undefined) agenda. This is, by definition, a conspiracy theory.Also anyone who questions the findings about global warming has to be a conspiracy theorist.
conspiracy theory
noun
: a theory that explains an event or situation as the result of a secret plan by usually powerful people or groups
Do ask questions. Do NOT deny the scientific consensus because it makes you uncomfortable.Don't ask questions. Obey. Believe what any scientist tells you because they are always right. The government has your best interest at heart. As a scientist, whenever you encounter someone who doesn't agree with your findings, default to labeling them as conspiracy theorists. Sounds like your MO Bart.
Why do you think science = government? Why do you think scientists are nefarious? You cant insinuate that science is a conspiracy and be taken seriously.To become a world class architect and to design a skyscraper isnt easy, but we non-architects can observe what we see, and accept that the building isnt going to topple over in a hurricane. Do we presume to know how the foundation has to be built to support the building? Or what materials are used to give flexibility in a wind, but strong enough to not collapse? Mostly, we dont, we trust that there isnt a massive conspiracy to build unsafe skyscrapers because architects are being paid off by Big Concrete to use cheaper materials.
Its the same with science. We can accept scientific principles without doing the research ourselves. But, and its a big but, if you want to dispute accepted science, then you have to bring science to the table not a debate. Science isnt hard, but it isnt easy either. You cannot deny basic scientific facts without getting a solid education, opening a scientific laboratory staffed with world-class scientists, and then publishing peer-reviewed articles that can help move the prevailing scientific consensus. You cannot spend an hour or a day or even a week Googling a few websites and then loudly proclaim that the scientific consensus is wrong; no, you need to do the hard work. Until you do, those of us who are skeptics and scientists get to ignore you, and we get to continue with the current consensus.
