Yahoo reporting Bama and South Carolina named

[Roustabout]

to say when the former NCAA enforcement guy was put on their payroll? I'm not getting your indignation here. There was nothing wrong with hiring the guy; indeed, it could have been, and surely was, interpreted as a smart move. Turns out he was corrupt. You seem to be presuming that "they"--the university, who"--should have predicted that he would be corrupt. Unless someone has a shady past, one tends to presume that an individual is not shady.

I think the implication is either the NCaA is corrupt, or Bama is corrupt and hiring people to look for loop holes, or who have the connections to point people in a different direction.

 

[wmcovol]

Has it occurred to you brainiacs that the NCAA has neither the manpower nor the legal authority to conduct long, complex investigations like this? Can the NCAA wiretap people, for example? I don't think so. The NCAA is NOT the FBI--duh. What the NCAA should do is what I presume was done here--when there are preliminary indications of crime, or initial evidence, it should call in law enforcement or the FBI and let them take over.

You do realize that the NCAA has conveniently swept scandal after scandal involving the big name programs under the rug/ How long has the academic scandal at UNC been "investigated" with several former players admitting they never attended classes? Did NCAA even read the NO Times Picayune story on Duke's recruiting of Duhon kid and the fact so many Duke players parents get jobs with a Duke alum company while their children play in Durham? So Louisville runs a whore house for players and recruits for years and passes on one tourney? They don't need law enforcement power to prove any of these things I mentioned. Just a set of open eyes and ears and common sense!

 

[whobethis16]

A fortune 500 company paying coaches and recruits is on a much different level than clarifying a he said she said rumor of the players fighting and/or injured players quitting the team. Hell I'm happy to hear somebody is fired up enough to get in some people's faces after a loss. If a guy wants to walk, wish him the best and keep moving.

If a guy gets slammed that bad just for clarification, you think he's going to put out a story like this without it being 100%?

 

[vettefool]

the **** has hit the fan...finally...what a joke the NCAA is...took the FBI to try to clear up corruption that has gone on for years...about time...UT could be a benefactor...paging Coach Barnes...

GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well it looks like Coach Barnes will avoid any suspicion in these corrupt practices, just a look at his recruiting results would send even the F.B.I. in another direction. at least we won't be getting any ncaa sanctions while Barnes is in charge. few wins either.:thud:

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Well it looks like Coach Barnes will avoid any suspicion in these corrupt practices, just a look at his recruiting results would send even the F.B.I. in another direction. at least we won't be getting any ncaa sanctions while Barnes is in charge. few wins either.:thud:

Bad recruiting by Barnes is a myth. He just added the leading scorer in the NCAA from 2 years ago. Darrington immediately elevates an area of weakness. Williams, Walker, and Pons are very good players. Fulkerson will be too if he doesn't drop off from the level he was playing before tearing up his wrist.

 

[LurkerExposed]

Fun reading, guys. Thanks for the entertainment. In other news, Yahoo.com has NOT reported that South Carolina has been named, and South Carolina is NOT under investigation by the FBI.

The FBI (and Yahoo.com) HAS reported that a former USC assistant coach was named as a defendant in their investigation. Lamont Evans has been reported to engage in numerous telephone conversations, and had one single meeting in March 2016 with the other defendants Marty Glazer, Christian Dawkins, and Munish Sood. During his employment as a USC coach, there is NO claims by the FBI that Evans took any bribe money, or introduced ANY Gamecock student-athletes or their family members to the other men.

The FBI investigation consists two parts: one, about high athletic clothing and foot apparel companies paid money to prep prospects and their families through college coaches in order to induce those prospects' commitments to college programs that had contracts with their companies.

two: that individuals involved in financial advisory companies and sports agencies paid bribe money to college coaches to "steer" or influence top student-athletes in their programs to sign contracts with their companies once they entered the professional leagues.

The Lamont Evans case involved the 2nd situation, not the first.

The FBI case involving Evans makes NO claims that money ever passed hands to Evans while he was employed at USC: his first payment of $500 came two weeks after being employed at Oklahoma State. Evans would go on to be paid some $22,000 in bribes, but the entirety of it was as a OSU coach, and the student-athletes involved were entirely OSU student-athletes.

The FBI case against Evans makes NO claims that ANY South Carolina student-athlete was EVER introduced to Glazer, Dawkins, or Sood. There was an instance where the mother of "Player-3" was introduced to Sood by Evans in June 2017. Glazer, who was the cooperating witness for the FBI and was recording phone convos and personal meetings, was not present for this meeting, so no one knows what took place.

But if it was Thornwell's mom, he had already depleted his college eligibility and was signed with an agent. If it was Dozier, he had already declared he was going pro and signing with an agent in April, so it doesn't matter what took place during the meeting. Both players no longer maintained amateur status...

Upon the men initially meeting with Evans in March 2016, Dawkins made comments at the meeting that were recorded by Glazer. He again pretty much repeated his statement on the car ride back to Atlanta after the meeting, also recorded: he said that doing the bribe thing worked best with assistant coaches, and NOT head coaches, because for one, HCs made too much money to be interested in petty cash bribes, and it was simply too risky. So even the FBI insider recorded evidence that the defendants scheme was intended to skirt around the head coaches of the programs they were targeting.

Now, the first part of the investigation - the deal involving athletic clothing and footwear companies - apparently didn't share this perspective, as Rick Pitino can now attest to. But that aspect didn't involve Evans and South Carolina....

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

The FBI needs to bust up the AAU cartel. The NCAA needs to evaluate wtf their purpose is. They weren't established to run a basketball tournament in March every year.